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		<title>By: Maverick</title>
		<link>http://jannah.org/blog/2009/07/21/response-to-the-usual-criticisms/comment-page-1/#comment-85852</link>
		<dc:creator>Maverick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for sure, I agree with the 2nd option as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for sure, I agree with the 2nd option as well.</p>
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		<title>By: jannah</title>
		<link>http://jannah.org/blog/2009/07/21/response-to-the-usual-criticisms/comment-page-1/#comment-85848</link>
		<dc:creator>jannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The footnotes are a good idea bro, of course it takes up much more time and effort. And even then I&#039;m sure people will argue about the authenticity and tafseer and this scholar said this etc etc. I don&#039;t know. I just feel like there are two types of articles out there... one with heavy Islamic references of Quran and Hadith written by someone very knowledgeable and scholarly and the other just a contemporary type of blog writing. The odd thing is the two might say the same thing but they totally attract a different audience!

I just want this blog to be more relaxed and fun and interesting for people esp the younguns to read. Maybe they can learn someone and I from them. It&#039;s just never meant to be an Islamic fatwa site because I&#039;m only a student of knowledge and I assume everyone who reads it is as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The footnotes are a good idea bro, of course it takes up much more time and effort. And even then I&#8217;m sure people will argue about the authenticity and tafseer and this scholar said this etc etc. I don&#8217;t know. I just feel like there are two types of articles out there&#8230; one with heavy Islamic references of Quran and Hadith written by someone very knowledgeable and scholarly and the other just a contemporary type of blog writing. The odd thing is the two might say the same thing but they totally attract a different audience!</p>
<p>I just want this blog to be more relaxed and fun and interesting for people esp the younguns to read. Maybe they can learn someone and I from them. It&#8217;s just never meant to be an Islamic fatwa site because I&#8217;m only a student of knowledge and I assume everyone who reads it is as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Maverick</title>
		<link>http://jannah.org/blog/2009/07/21/response-to-the-usual-criticisms/comment-page-1/#comment-85845</link>
		<dc:creator>Maverick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, another option could be to write as you please, and don&#039;t bother with including verses or riwayaat / ahaadith in the article itself.

Instead, just include them as appropriate, in the footnotes. So if anyone really does want to examine the foundation of your argument, they can still get what they&#039;re looking for, but the flow of the article isn&#039;t interrupted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, another option could be to write as you please, and don&#8217;t bother with including verses or riwayaat / ahaadith in the article itself.</p>
<p>Instead, just include them as appropriate, in the footnotes. So if anyone really does want to examine the foundation of your argument, they can still get what they&#8217;re looking for, but the flow of the article isn&#8217;t interrupted.</p>
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		<title>By: jannah</title>
		<link>http://jannah.org/blog/2009/07/21/response-to-the-usual-criticisms/comment-page-1/#comment-85841</link>
		<dc:creator>jannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>walaikum salaam,

TJC I&#039;ve deleted so many in my life and much worse. The worst is when supposed good brothers &quot;upholding the sunnah and establishing the deen singlehandedly&quot; start to get personal or start swearing at me! Ahhh way to go following the way of our prophet(s)! He&#039;d really swear and call a sister names if he didn&#039;t agree with her?! Anyway, just thought I&#039;d finally post about it.
 
Maverick good points. To some people however everything must have a reference, a daleel. Remember back when ppl would be like &quot;Whats your daleel!&quot; well they&#039;re still around even though they don&#039;t even know the requirements of a daleel and how to evaluate or compare them in fiqh! I know some people just say stuff and you&#039;re like How is that Islamic? but really, not everything a person says out of experience or knowledge or wisdom is going to be a Quran verse.

That&#039;s a very interesting analysis of the paradigm shift. And I agree it is happening. Perhaps this is the &#039;clash of civilizations&#039; that is really going on. The &#039;sun rising from the west&#039; amazing reflection and interpretation!! 
jazaks for writing.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>walaikum salaam,</p>
<p>TJC I&#8217;ve deleted so many in my life and much worse. The worst is when supposed good brothers &#8220;upholding the sunnah and establishing the deen singlehandedly&#8221; start to get personal or start swearing at me! Ahhh way to go following the way of our prophet(s)! He&#8217;d really swear and call a sister names if he didn&#8217;t agree with her?! Anyway, just thought I&#8217;d finally post about it.</p>
<p>Maverick good points. To some people however everything must have a reference, a daleel. Remember back when ppl would be like &#8220;Whats your daleel!&#8221; well they&#8217;re still around even though they don&#8217;t even know the requirements of a daleel and how to evaluate or compare them in fiqh! I know some people just say stuff and you&#8217;re like How is that Islamic? but really, not everything a person says out of experience or knowledge or wisdom is going to be a Quran verse.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a very interesting analysis of the paradigm shift. And I agree it is happening. Perhaps this is the &#8216;clash of civilizations&#8217; that is really going on. The &#8216;sun rising from the west&#8217; amazing reflection and interpretation!!<br />
jazaks for writing.</p>
<p>ws</p>
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		<title>By: Maverick</title>
		<link>http://jannah.org/blog/2009/07/21/response-to-the-usual-criticisms/comment-page-1/#comment-85840</link>
		<dc:creator>Maverick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salams

There are some Islamic principles and / or customs that are presumed to be elementary, thus nullifying the need for tedious, and sometimes redundant, references of chapter or verse. 

But much more important than that, is that fact that there is a huge paradigm shift that is taking place today, and often many people don&#039;t realize its significance. Islam was revealed for the entire world, and is applicable for all time. But historical demographics have meant that the vast majority of Islamic practices are always applied through an &quot;Eastern&quot; lens. 

Never before in the history of humanity have so many Muslims been living in non-Muslim, Western states. These Muslims will naturally develop heretofore unheard-of social norms and practices. And although Islam has already provided the broad guidelines and parameters by which these norms will be trimmed and adjusted, the fact remains that these new customs and mores are - at first blush - alien to the age old practices of the Muslim majorities living in Africa, the Mideast, and Asia.

In other words, its a cultural conflict more than it is any kind of conflict within (or with) the established schools of thought. Ethnocentrism does not equal a better practice of Islam. 

Just as the Muslim countries have their own established and distinctly identifiable cultures, as time goes on, over several generations, Western Muslims will also come to have their own distinctly identifiable cultures and customs. 

Last but not least:

Some shyoukh have said that many of the signs of Yaumul Qiyamah will have double occurrences. One of these examples is the Sun rising from the West - it will happen literally, but prior to that, it is said that the sun of Islam will rise from the West, just as it had previously risen from the Eastern lands. The Muslims in the West may bring back the spirit and attractiveness of Islam just as their Eastern ancestors had done over a millenium ago.</description>
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<p>There are some Islamic principles and / or customs that are presumed to be elementary, thus nullifying the need for tedious, and sometimes redundant, references of chapter or verse. </p>
<p>But much more important than that, is that fact that there is a huge paradigm shift that is taking place today, and often many people don&#8217;t realize its significance. Islam was revealed for the entire world, and is applicable for all time. But historical demographics have meant that the vast majority of Islamic practices are always applied through an &#8220;Eastern&#8221; lens. </p>
<p>Never before in the history of humanity have so many Muslims been living in non-Muslim, Western states. These Muslims will naturally develop heretofore unheard-of social norms and practices. And although Islam has already provided the broad guidelines and parameters by which these norms will be trimmed and adjusted, the fact remains that these new customs and mores are &#8211; at first blush &#8211; alien to the age old practices of the Muslim majorities living in Africa, the Mideast, and Asia.</p>
<p>In other words, its a cultural conflict more than it is any kind of conflict within (or with) the established schools of thought. Ethnocentrism does not equal a better practice of Islam. </p>
<p>Just as the Muslim countries have their own established and distinctly identifiable cultures, as time goes on, over several generations, Western Muslims will also come to have their own distinctly identifiable cultures and customs. </p>
<p>Last but not least:</p>
<p>Some shyoukh have said that many of the signs of Yaumul Qiyamah will have double occurrences. One of these examples is the Sun rising from the West &#8211; it will happen literally, but prior to that, it is said that the sun of Islam will rise from the West, just as it had previously risen from the Eastern lands. The Muslims in the West may bring back the spirit and attractiveness of Islam just as their Eastern ancestors had done over a millenium ago.</p>
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		<title>By: TJC</title>
		<link>http://jannah.org/blog/2009/07/21/response-to-the-usual-criticisms/comment-page-1/#comment-85839</link>
		<dc:creator>TJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as-salaamu `alaykum.  Don&#039;t even bother!  Click &quot;delete&quot;!  You will get sooooooo many of these kinds of stupid letters (and worse) that they will take over your life, just like the cartoon.  You can&#039;t respond to everyone.  Concentrate on doing what you do best to help and support others, and don&#039;t bother defending yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as-salaamu `alaykum.  Don&#8217;t even bother!  Click &#8220;delete&#8221;!  You will get sooooooo many of these kinds of stupid letters (and worse) that they will take over your life, just like the cartoon.  You can&#8217;t respond to everyone.  Concentrate on doing what you do best to help and support others, and don&#8217;t bother defending yourself.</p>
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