Madinat al-Muslimeen Islamic Message Board
|[MEDIA] Critique of inthemotionsofthewind website|
|07/19/01 at 02:09:18|
Hi, need some help here. I tried producing something 'funky' a couple of years ago and then placed it on this site: http://www.geocities.com/iisule/inthemotionsofthewinds.html
Now I'm not sure whether to keep it or what? Need someone to check it out (gonna take a lot of reading and a little 'sci-fi' though).
Thanks (I know I've probably bothered so many people with this article, sorry guys :) ).
|Re: Check it|
|01/16/01 at 18:13:00|
Hmmm...it sure looks interesting. I skipped through it reading a few paragraphs here and there. Interesting concept of motion, creation, patterns, etc and nice amusing passages :) I have printed it out and inshallah when I have more time will give it a thorough read.
|Re: Check it2|
|01/19/01 at 18:20:21|
Phew, it's good to see someone actually appears to like the work - never mind the other m-stuff on my site :)
|01/20/01 at 00:37:34|
...Er... Right, since I'm new here, might as well just add a brief introduction of myself.
I'm a Nigerian, I'm Igala (my mother tongue) and I stay in Kaduna (yeah, the place with all the violence last year - don't qoute me on it, but to me as well to many other people, it was actually another major case of tribalism as usual mixed with some religious differences).
I presently work with an ISP - a one year National Youth Service Corps programme for Nigerian graduates to gain some experience.
Well, I don't have much else to say 'cept hello, everyone, Ikani's here :) ... and hope he doesn't mess up...
|Re: Brief intro.|
|01/20/01 at 00:47:12|
|Wa alaikum salaam,|
Nice to have you onboard Ikani :) Ahhh, Nigeria...I have many childhood memories from there. Hmmm...don't remember an igala language ?
Tell us more about the implementation of sharis in several states in Nigeria. And more about the riots, whether the media was exaggerating or misquoting. I have been to Kaduan serveral times but that was more than 15 years ago. Things must have changed.
|Re: Brief intro.2|
|01/21/01 at 15:22:59|
Yeah well, there are about 250 (or more) different ethnic groups in Nigeria and Igala's one of them.
The implementation of sharia in parts of the country... Hmm, well it all started in Zamfara State then when demands began to arise for it in other states, other State governors decided to follow suit (mainly for politocal reasons it now appears). Muslims all aspire for sharia, but in today's world (especially in Nigeria) things don't always turn out to be what they seem. In my opinion, the implementation of sharia in Nigeria would be much fun once we get rid of issues like tribalism and corruption, and we also start taking education of people more seriously. It seems implementation of sharia to many people means simply grabbing suspects and carrying out certain punishments prescribed in the Qur'an. Here we see how Allah blessed the Prophet (sallallahu alaihim wassallam) with much wisdom - if he had introduced Islam to people in society the way it is being done in many parts of the world today, I don't think many would have been attracted to the faith they way they were and the 'anti-Islamists' would have a field day with their "Islam spread by the sword" slogans.
Look at Nigeria today - the high level of poverty and illiteracy resulting in high crime rates and so much suffering; corrupt governmnet officials putting on more weight day by day; ocassional ethnic politics and clashes; a producer of crude oil now importing fuel and there is still rampant fuel shortage across the country so much so that we have to store gallons of petrol in our homes; ailing telecommunications sector and poor electric power production facilities; etc.
Don't get me wrong this is a beautiful country blessed with an abundance of resources and friendly people (I've never travelled out of Nigeria in all my life so far), but there are just certain things we must learn to care of before it's too late.
So, while efforts to introduce sharia in Nigeria is commendable, I just pray it won't be used as a barrier to simply hide away these other issues. Introduction of Islamic law ought to be a shining example showing humanity how muslims can strive to help rid of the world of many of its faults and not just "make our enemies afraid of us". So far, Allah knows I may be wrong, one man has had his hand chopped off for stealing a cow in Zamfara and an unmarried teenaged mother who says she was lured by 3 men is to receive 100 lashes of the cane in the same state all in a manner which seems like things are being taken a bit too fast - I would have thought the economic and political problems could have been lightened first and burdens on people reduced before going into such punishmnets. Now all this does is help some journalists and nasty people go about talking about how corrupt politicians can make off with millions and rich guys sneak off with alcohol and prostitutes to their homes while it is only the very poor people who get to have sharia punishments inflicted upon them. The two cases I just cited involve people from the very low class in society. Another problem is that there is a danger of the entire sharia matter taking ethnic dimensions - the states where it has been implemented all tend to be in the northern part of the country and some would even argue that it is done in such a way to favour the Hausa culture which prevails there (you might be told to look at the tribe the appointed imams, judges, etc. belong to). There is this common feeling that Islam in the North (by those living there) is better than that in the South (especially where the Yoruba tribe prevails) AND OF COURSE, VICE VERSA. Allah guide us out of all these problems. Real sharia'll come Insha Allah, even if this is just the beginning. Then we can proudly invite non-muslims to come and enjoy what we have to offer, progress in our own science and technology and not just keep buying it all the time (especially the purchase of weapons to fight ourselves with), and generally live happy halaal lives. One of the things I love reading about is how the earlier muslims seeking knowledge from all over the world would simply "take the good from whatever they found and got rid of the bad".
Okay - boy, this is long... The riots in Kaduna: simply put, that was another bad example of ethnic clashes being mixed with religious differences. It was mainly between the Hausa (mainly Muslims) and the Kaje (mainly Christain) tribes. Innocent lives were lost, homes and shops were LOOTED and burnt (stolen items were briefly in the markets at very cheap prices), and the situation was taken as means for some broadcast media to "show the barbaric nature of muslims and the poor suffering non-muslims at their mercy". Hah! News media just tell groups of people whatever they want to hear. The "battle" was carried out mainly by those young guys in the street who have been deprived of education and any decent means of living (they listen to hard core raps and in the US you probably could refer to them as 'gangstas' and 'niggas' - but it really isn't their fault, it's the poor system of governance here) and who can be easily mobilised by certain 'religious leaders' and 'big men' with the means and motivation to go out, cause mayhem and kill each other. Don't think it was bearded guys out for a holy war. We had both muslim and christain 'refugees' hiding together under the same roof in some helping people's homes. The riots were just plain horrible - Islam doesn't preach anything like this (only Allah determines who should be fought against and killed where necessary as shown in the Qur'an and Hadith collections).
Kaduna is cosmopolitan and such a crisis has never occured here before to such a scale which is why many of us remain surprised as to how this thing all came to being. Those of us from other tribes (muslims or not) got stuck in between - you might be attacked for "being one of those who prays with the Hausas (muslim)" or 'cos "how do I know you're a muslim when you can't even speak Hausa". God is great.
Alhamdullilah, things have basically returned to normal in this city and we all pray peace reigns. THERE IS STILL NOWHERE I'D RATHER BE THAN IN KADUNA!
Right, that's it, I'm tired now. Have a nice day, y'all! ;)
|Re: Check it|
|01/21/01 at 19:45:27|
Ikani, thanks for sharing this with us. We only get an outside view of the situation in Nigeria and the media is usually not very friendly to situations where Islam is involved (and to Nigeria in general)
Nigeria has a long history of tribalism. There are still wounds from the happenings in the 60s. With time they should have diminished but I guess because of the widespread corruption and poverty among the people these hatreds come up again and again.
And you are right, a top down approach to the implementation of Islamic law is often not successful. History testifies to that, including the example of our Prophet.
What do you think should be a path to rectifying this situation?
Hmmm...this thread should go into the community center.
|01/21/01 at 20:09:03|
|Wa alaikum salam,|
Hmmm, what do I think?... I think things should be taken at a slower easier pace and gradually we'll get where we're trying to go (true Islam). But don't look at me, I know I've my own faults too.
I really think we should try and develop our own science and technology and also learn to solve our own problems instead of looking on to others to help us out or always only complaining about anti-Islam plots.
We pray to Allah to guide us and show us the way.
It's not just Nigeria alone with such problems in the muslim world.
|01/21/01 at 20:23:07|
We pray to Allah to guide us and show us the way.[/quote]
[quote]It's not just Nigeria alone with such problems in the muslim world.
True. I come from Pakistan which is also in a bad shape. Both Pakistan and Nigeria have very similar histories and problems. Having lived in both countries I kinda relate to the situations in both countries and feel bad about it...lost opportunities.
|01/21/01 at 23:54:28|
|Don't feel too bad about it. At least still more opportunities keep showing up, so one day maybe...|
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