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|An interesting analysis of the tragic event|
|10/10/01 at 07:06:05|
Well, couldnt resist posting ...
To me it's the most clinical analysis that I have found till now.
U.S. Presidential pre-candidate Lyndon LaRouche was interviewed on a popular Italian radio station, Radio Radicale, on Sept. 20. The interview was broadcast from Rome during morning "drive time," and aired again on Sept. 22.
Radio Radicale is the official radio of the Radical Party and is popular well beyond its party base, since it is the only national radio that broadcasts live Parliament discussions. The interview was conducted by journalist Andrea Billau.
Billau: Radio Radicale. Once more, we deal with last week's terrorist attacks in the United States, and we do it by listening to a "voice out of the chorus," directly from the United States. Our listeners know this figure already, because we interviewed one of his collaborators, Amelia Robinson, who was also collaborator of Martin Luther King, and she told us about him. Today, he is on line with us: He is Lyndon LaRouche, an economist, several-time candidate for the U.S. Presidency. Good morning Dr. LaRouche!
LaRouche: Good day to you.
Billau:: I want to start with an article I have read, in which LaRouche insists that what happened last week in the United States is a genocidal attack carried out by rogue forces, coordinated from within the United States, because no foreign power has the capabilities to do what was done last Tuesday [Sept. 11]. Well, can you explain this statement, an important and serious statement, to us?
LaRouche: What was done could not be done by so-called international terrorist organizations. And technically, it could not have been done by the United States to the Soviet Union in the days of the old Cold War. This was a highly professional, top military operation. And this involves large resources and coordination, which do not exist outside of the United States. It involves elements which were recruited by the United States and other intelligence services of Europe and Israel, back during the days of the so-called Iran-Contra operation.
Looking at this professionally, what we are looking at, is the mode of operation which these acts of this past Tuesday, were the first days of an ongoing, attempted coup d'etat against the government of the United States. The very mode of the attack has two characteristics which will tell you what the issue is.
First of all, it occurs in the midst of the end-phase of the biggest financial collapse of modern history. Secondly, the obvious intention is what is called "geopolitical." The purpose of the attack is to set forth a clash of civilizations, as proposed for example by Zbigniew Brzezinski and Samuel P. Huntington. There is a movement, as you know, in the world, for cooperation in face of the present world financial and related crises, especially on the Eurasian continent. This has been accelerated by concerns over the financial crisis, to find a new way of building our way out of the crisis. Other powerful forces are determined to prevent that from happening. On the surface, in the United States itself we get a lot of propaganda, especially from CNN, Fox News and people like that; but behind the scenes, in the relevant institutions, there is an awareness on the general nature of the crisis as being what I have just described, and serious people are working on that problem.
We hope, however, that we can get that job done before the next attack comes, because there will be an intended next attack. One of the things we are concentrating on is to get an early agreement to a Middle East peace between the Palestinians and Israel, because the danger is setting off a religious war, which then would create an uncontrollable world situation. That essentially sums up, in a small package, my views.
Billau: Therefore, in your view, Mr. LaRouche, Osama bin Laden is not responsible for this terrorist attack?
LaRouche: No. Osama bin Laden is a nuisance which was created by joint efforts of the British, U.S., and Israeli intelligence services, back during the days of the Afghansi War. In the meantime, he has become a nuisance to Russia, to other countries, so that those who are trying to evade the issue, are trying to get a focus on him as the problem. He is a problem, but he is not the problem behind the crisis behind the crisis in the United States today.
Billau: In order to better understand: Are you saying that there was a conspiracy, internal, not only to the United States, but to various Western countries as well? Who are the players in this conspiracy, and what result do they want to achieve?
LaRouche: We do not know who the players are. It is like hunting an animal, by a professional hunter. We do not have the name and the pedigree of the animal, but you have to read the spoor to know what the species is, what the habits are, and you have to read the mind of the animal. If you look at that from that standpoint, it becomes very clear as to what the nature of the identity of the animal behind this problem is. It is a certain mentality among people in Britain, in the United States and elsewhere, especially associated with the financier-speculator community. The crisis motivates them, as it was described in a Council of Foreign Relations study done last year in July: to think in terms of dictatorship as a way of dealing with the world financial collapse. This overlaps a group of people who shares the Brzezinski-Huntington conception of a clash of civilizations, as part of the way to handle this problem.
Now, this does not mean that people who think that are behind this coup. That does mean that those in command of the coup effort share that mentality. These would be people who are fanatics, who are located in the so-called religious right, and similar types of people, of which there is an abundance in the United States. This means former, retired, flag-rank officers who share that ideology. This means using part of the vast special-warfare capabilities which the United States and other countries have developed especially since the 1970s. It means the same kind of mentality that was behind terrorism in Italy, France, Germany, and so forth during the 1960s, '70s and '80s.
And, if you study coup d'etats in history, in modern history especially, what is unthinkable to many people, is the idea that what was done in Chile or other countries could not be done inside the United States. But it is possible in the United States under conditions of crisis. And my concern is that, since many people are afraid to say this, I have to take the leading role in encouraging those who should deal with this crisis, to deal with it appropriately. What concerns me the most in this, is the idiocy of the United States taking the policy of seeking revenge as a military policy, taking revenge upon people who may not be guilty of this operation. It is like a Southern, racist lynch mob, just lynching some guy who is African-American, simply because they want to kill an African-American, and it plays right into global religious war, which is the most dangerous thing that one can imagine.
Billau: Well, what really looks enormous in your hypothesis, you must admit, is that such internal Western forces organize, in order to unleash the clash of civilizations, the death of 20,000—we do not know how many, several thousands in any case—of Westerners, of Americans, in particular, with a spirit of, we could say, real kamikazes. Could you give us more elements that would help us to at least imagine such an enormous scenario?
LaRouche: Yes. If you understand the United States as I do: There are plenty of people in the United States, in very high ranking position, who could do that with impunity. Look at certain facts which are well known to people in the Vatican; look at the loss of respect for life; look at the spread of malthusianism as part of this wave of death which has been pushed in the world over the past twenty years; look what has happened with the reform of medical policy, of health care, in the United States; look at the welfare reform of 1996; look at those who propose that the world population must be reduced to a billion or less, quickly; look at a number of people into whose minds such ideas are acceptable; look at the leading U.S. press, and other publications, which shares that ideology; look at the universities, which teach that ideology; look at what has been done to destroy the mind of our young people with Nintendo games, videogames, and so forth. If you look at all those predicates, you have a development of an actually Satanic state of mind, which is spreading among larger parts of the world population, including the United States. My approach, therefore to all this, is not really to understand the problem, but to realize you have to use the crisis as the occasion, in a sense, to evangelize people back to a conception of what Man is. The only real cure of this problem is agape.
Billau: Well, now I would like to ask you this. If such forces had a techical, but also a propaganda capability—in your article, you attack CNN, the world's largest television network—my question is: At this point, did Bush fall into this giant trap, lock, stock and barrel?
LaRouche: Well, yes, and no. Bush is a very limited personality. Gore would have been a different President, but just as bad, in a different way. So, you have the institutions of the United States, especially the financial establishment, which reduced the choice of the President, last year, to these two choices. President Bush is only a limited person in a big job. He is facing, now, a crisis beyond his imagination. The important thing to look at, here, is that the President is the President of a Presidency which consists not only in the institutions of the Executive Branch of government, but, it can also call on the assistance of people who are not anymore active in government. To my knowledge, at this time, the institutions of the United States Executive Branch, at least a great part of it, are recognizing the existence of the problem I have described; they do not fully accept yet everything I have said, but they recognize that I am generally right.
So, on the one hand, you have the United States acting like an insane monster, which is afraid of the public opinion orchestrated by the mass news media; on the other side, the same Presidency, through the institution of the Presidency, is looking into alternatives to the kind of insanities which seems to be the U.S. policy right now.
And, very important, is the cooperation which the President is enjoying with other countries. Cooperation with Russia is very important, as well as with China. Under these conditions, the United States and these countries and Western Europe together, can lead a group of nations which can develop a solution, an alternative to the present crisis.
And the problem, therefore, is to have the key figure of the United State, who is now President, George Bush, to see this situation. This is like in the old days of feudalism: How do the wise advisors of the King advise him, when he really does not really understand how to handle the situation? So, many of us including me in my private capacity, as well as those in official capacities, are working together as much as possible to try to bring a solution to the situation, and escape from the madness which has seized the mind of much of the United States at this moment.
My view is this: If the people of the United States, and its leading institutions, recognize that a coup d'etat is in process, underway, and if leading nations of the world share that concern, then the forces behind this terror, which we just experienced, can not win. And the best way to defeat an enemy is to convince him that he can not win. And that is what I think the objective should be at this time. That is what I am trying to do.
Billau: And yet, it seems as if the general orientation of the United States and its allies is to launch a vast offensive against terrorism, but with very precise targets such as the famous bin Laden, Afghanistan, and other states which could have offered their support—Iraq etc. Then, despite the divisions and the awareness inside some circles in the U.S. administration, indicated by LaRouche, it looks like what you expose as the wrong answer, is exactly taking place.
LaRouche: Well, if they do not change their policy, then you can look for a planet-wide dark age coming soon. That policy is insane, we have got to change it. And those who study the history of religious wars know exactly what I am saying. What His Holiness has been working for over the recent period, especially, in this line, is absolutely indispensabile for the world at this time. And if we do not change the policy, we know what the penalty is. Therefore, we cannot assess policy on the basis of prevailing opinion, if the acceptance of prevailing opinion means Hell. This is the time for real leaders and real heroes who lead the poor sheep out of the valley.
Billau: A signal of a counter-tendency, in the last hours, is Arafat's statement against terrorism, the Israeli withdrawal from some positions in the West Bank and Gaza, and the possible meeting between Perez and Arafat. Could this, according to LaRouche, help to reverse the tendency?
LaRouche: It probably could. Once people understand that there is no such thing as international terrorism—it does not exist; terrorism is nothing than a method of war; it is not run by independent terrorist organizations. What the Israeli government is doing, what the IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] is doing, is as much terrorism—it is even more so—than what the Palestinians are doing. If we bring about Middle East peace, or at least a peace agreement, go back to the Oslo Accord, back to Rabin's policy, then, as the activity of Secretary of State Powell has suggested, that turning point in the Middle East could be a turning point against the danger of the spread of general warfare. Therefore, the concentration of Powell and others on that particular point at issue, is extremely important.
Billau: Well, before we conclude our conversation, I would like to shortly go back to the terrorist attack and in particular, to the ongoing investigations. In the United States a network of terrorists has been identified, with names, family names, pilot licenses. etc. Is all this fake, according to you?
LaRouche: This is typical of desperate institutions which are trying to pretend that they are solving the problem. This has the characteristic of a witchhunt. If you are going to conduct an investigation of that kind, you don't spew it all over the mass media. When you hear this kind of public releases from government agencies, you say: Are they trying, actually, to investigate the case, or, are they trying to pretend to investigate the case? A lot of these names could be false; already there are strong indications of that. What you are dealing with, is a state of denial. You have to look at the state of mind of many institutions in the United States; corresponding to a decline in the moral and intellectual capability of the American people, is an increase in the state of denial.
Now, this includes people in key positions, faced with the fact that a major coup d'etat is in progress in the United States, and all leading institutions have the evidence that proves that. Then you say: Oh, no, it cannot be true; it must be these poor foreigners who are doing that to us. And this will be encouraged greatly by the retired flag-officer types, and similar types, who are running the coup. To turn U.S. public opinion and institutions into search of the enemy who is not there, in order to conceal the enemy who is there. The Americans would like to believe that the danger is a foreign danger, which can be eliminated solely by going to attack the foreigners, not dealing with the thing which is more fearful to them, the danger of the enemy within.
Billau: Lyndon LaRouche's thought is very clear. I wish to conclude by asking what do you think could Europe, and Italy as an ally of the United States, do in this situation.
LaRouche: First of all, you build up the cooperation which is developing between the United States, Russia, Western Europe, and other countries. An honest collaboration is what is needed. Not submission, but honest collaboration. You tell the United States government it is insane—but you do it politely. But also, provide alternative suggestions. People will sometimes not accept the existance of a problem unless somebody tells them the solution to that.
Remember, the underlying ground to this crisis is the collapse of the international and monetary financial system. We are now going over the edge in the worst monetary and financial crisis in world history. And that is where the underlying basis for collaboration should lie, not just on the negative side of dealing with this threat. If we can get collaboration in making the fundamental reversals in bad policies which have caused this crisis, they will bring the strong collaboration across the Atlantic which will help to solve this crisis. We have to get madness, panic, the revenge-seeking out of the problem; then we can solve it. And I would say, in one word: agapé.
Billau: Good. I thank Lyndon LaRouche, economist, several times Democratic candidate to the U.S. Presidency. And, we remind you now, because we forgot to do it at the beginning, LaRouche was imprisoned for five years during the Bush Presidency, the father of the current President. He was liberated after an international mobilization of Parlamentarians including, in Italy, Emma Bonino and Flaminio Piccoli.
Thank you Mr. LaRouche; and I wish everybody good work and good day.
|Re: An interesting analysis of the tragic event|
|10/10/01 at 09:32:26|
|wow! what an article! A bit masonic but still a very interesting read. |
|Re: An interesting analysis of the tragic event|
|10/10/01 at 13:58:52|
This Larouche guy is something...I used to get his newspaper and then we stopped subscribing. Some of the articles in that newspaper made very good predictions about the future. Not any masonic stuff but actual good political predictions. He was a political prisoner in the US for some time.
|Re: An interesting analysis of the tragic event|
|10/10/01 at 15:53:45|
|Wowo, masha'Allah, I'm surprised he's still alive. |
Right before Labor Day 1994, former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark testified to an international committee of jurists and public officials investigating prosecutorial wrong-doing in the LaRouche conviction, saying the LaRouche case ``represented a broader range of deliberate cunning and systematic misconduct over a longer period of time utilizing the power of the federal government than any other prosecution by the U.S. Government in my time or to my knowledge.''
So far, although thousands of public figures from around the world, including thousands within the U.S.A. itself, have demanded that the U.S. government exonerate LaRouche of the false charges on which he was convicted, official Washington says, ``Yes, I agree: LaRouche was railroaded; but, I can't do anything. It's too hot for me to handle.''
|Al-Qa'idah group had nothing to do with attacks|
|10/11/01 at 16:10:03|
|Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullah|
With the hukm of shari'ah/Islamic law (regarding trials, evidences, etc), strange how even Muslims are assuming, like everyone else, when there's still no solid proof or evidence (unless you count the "smear campaign").
I can't believe how "tangled" this "web" of deceit is.
The Al-Qa'idah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks
The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the
USA, according to Usamah Bin-Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani
paper Ummat. Usamah Bin-Ladin went on to suggest that Jews or US secret
services were behind the attacks, and to express gratitude and support for
Pakistan, urging Pakistans people to jihad against the West. The following
is the text of an interview conducted by a special correspondent,
published Pakistani newspaper Ummat on 28 September, place and date of
interview not given. The first paragraph is Ummats introduction.
Kabul: Prominent Arab mojahed [holy warrior] Usamah Bin-Ladin has said
that he or his al-Qaidah group has nothing to do with the 11 September
suicidal attacks in Washington and New York. He said the US government
should find the attackers within the country. In an exclusive interview
with daily Ummat, he said these attacks could be the act of those who are
part of the American system and are rebelling against it and working for
some other system. Or, Usamah said, this could be the act of those who
want to make the current century a century of conflict between Islam and
Or, the American Jews, who are opposed to President Bush ever since the
Florida elections, might be the masterminds of this act. There is also a
great possibility of the involvement of US intelligence agencies, which
need billions of dollars worth of funds every year. He said there is a
government within the government in the United States. The secret
agencies, he said, should be asked as to who are behind the attacks.
Usamah said support for attack on Afghanistan was a matter of need for
some Muslim countries and compulsion for others. However, he said, he was
thankful to the courageous people of Pakistan who erected a bulwark before
the wrong forces. He added that the Islamic world was attaching great
expectations with Pakistan and, in time of need, we will protect this
bulwark by sacrificing of lives. Following is the interview in fulldetail:
Ummat: You have been accused of involvement in the attacks in New York and
Washington. What do you sant to say about this? If you are not involved,
who might be?
Usamah: In the name of Allah, the most beneficent, the most merciful.
Praise be to Allah, Who is the creator of the whole universe and Who Made
the earth as an abode for peace, for the whole mankind. Allah is the
Sustainer, who sent Prophet Muhammad for our guidance. I am thankful to
The Ummat Group of Publications, which gave me the opportunity to convey
my viewpoint to the people, particularly the valiant and Momin [true
Muslim] people of Pakistan who refused to believe in lie of the demon. I
have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in
the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I
had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of
innocent women, children, and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam
strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children, and other
people. Such a practice is forbidden ever in the course of a battle. It is
the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women,
children, and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of
Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is
sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.
There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all
these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent
people of Iraq, Chechnya, and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived
from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of
terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an
anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its
friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By
enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing
them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will
see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies [of
Muslims].The US has no friends, nor does it want to keep any because the
prerequisite of friendship is to come to the level of the friend or
consider him at par with you. America does not want to see anyone equal to
it. It expects slavery from others. Therefore, other countries are either
its slaves or subordinates. However, our case is different. We have
pledged slavery to God Almighty alone and after this pledge there is no
possibility to become the slave of someone else. If we do that, it will be
disregardful to both our Sustainer and his fellow beings. Most of the
world nations upholding their freedom are the religious ones, which are
the enemies of United States, or the latter itself considers them as its
The countries, which do not agree to become its slaves, such as China,
Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria, and the former Russia [as received]. Whoever
committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American
people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not
against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people
have been killed. According to my information, the death toll is much
higher than what the US government has stated. But the Bush administration
does not want the panic to spread. The United States should try to trace
the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part
of the US system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working
for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a
century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own
civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. They can be any
one, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the US itself,
there are dozens of well-organized and well-equipped groups, which are
capable of causing a large-scale destruction. Then you cannot forget the
American Jews, who are annoyed with President Bush ever since the
elections in Florida and want to avenge him. Then there are intelligence
agencies in the US, which require billions of dollars worth of funds from
the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a
big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that
the budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. So,
they first started propaganda against Usamah and Taleban and then this
incident happened. You see, the Bush administration approved a budget of
40bn dollars. Where will this huge amount go? It will be provided to the
same agencies, which need huge funds and want to exert their importance.
Now they will spend the money for their expansion and for increasing their
importance. I will give you an example. Drug smugglers from all over the
world are in contact with the US secret agencies. These agencies do not
want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their
importance will be diminished. The people in the US Drug Enforcement
Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance
and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a
drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same
way, whether it is President Bush or any other US president, they cannot
bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it
accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a
government within the government in the United Sates? That secret
government must be asked as to who made the attacks.
Ummat: A number of world countries have joined the call of the United
States for launching an attack on Afghanistan. These also include a number
of Muslim countries. Will Al-Qaidah declare a jihad against these
countries as well?
Usamah: I must say that my duty is just to awaken the Muslims; to tell
them as to what is good for them and what is not. What does Islam says and
what the enemies of Islam want? Al-Qaidah was set up to wage a jihad
against infidelity, particularly to encounter the onslaught of the infidel
countries against the Islamic states. Jihad is the sixth undeclared
element of Islam. [The first five being the basic holy words of Islam,
prayers, fast, pilgrimage to Mecca, and giving alms] Every anti-Islamic
person is afraid of it. Al-Qaidah wants to keep this element alive and
active and make it part of the daily life of the Muslims. It wants to give
it the status of worship. We are not against any Islamic country nor we
consider a war against an Islamic country as jihad. We are in favour of
armed jihad only against those infidel countries, which are killing
innocent Muslim men, women, and children just because they are Muslims.
Supporting the US act is the need of some Muslim countries and the
compulsion of others. However, they should think as to what will remain of
their religious and moral position if they support the attack of the
Christians and the Jews on a Muslim country like Afghanistan. The orders
of Islamic shariah [jurisprudence] for such individuals, organizations,
and countries are clear and all the scholars of the Muslim brotherhood are
unanimous on them. We will do the same, which is being ordered by the Amir
ol-Momenin [the commander of the faithful] Mola Omar and the Islamic
scholars. The hearts of the people of Muslim countries are beating with
the call of jihad. We are grateful to them.
Ummat: The losses caused in the attacks in New York and Washington have
proved that giving an economic blow to the US is not too difficult. US
experts admit that a few more such attacks can bring down the American
economy. Why is al-Qaidah not targeting their economic pillars?
Usamah: I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States.
We are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United
States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom.
This system is totally in control of the American Jews, whose first
priority is Israel, not the United States. It is simply that the American
people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live
according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment
should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving a blood bath
to innocent Muslims and the US is not uttering a single word.
Ummat: Why is harm not caused to the enemies of Islam through other means,
apart from the armed struggle? For instance, inciting the Muslims to
boycott Western products, banks, shipping lines, and TV channels.
Usamah: The first thing is that Western products could only be boycotted
when the Muslim fraternity is fully awakened and organized. Secondly, the
Muslim companies should become self-sufficient in producing goods equal to
the products of Western companies. Economic boycott of the West is not
possible unless economic self-sufficiency is attained and substitute
products are brought out. You see that wealth is scattered all across the
Muslim world but not a single TV channel has been acquired which can
preach Islamic injunctions according to modern requirements and attain an
international influence. Muslim traders and philanthropists should make it
a point that if the weapon of public opinion is to be used, it is to be
kept in the hand. Todays world is of public opinion and the fates of
nations are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building
public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be done.
Ummat: The entire propaganda about your struggle has so far been made by
the Western media. But no information is being received from your sources
about the network of Al-Qaidah and its jihadi successes. Would youcomment?
Usamah: In fact, the Western media is left with nothing else. It has no
other theme to survive for a long time. Then we have many other things to
do. The struggle for jihad and the successes are for the sake of Allah and
not to annoy His bondsmen. Our silence is our real propaganda. Rejections,
explanations, or corrigendum only waste your time and through them, the
enemy wants you to engage in things which are not of use to you. These
things are pulling you away from your cause. The Western media is
unleashing such a baseless propaganda, which make us surprise but it
reflects on what is in their hearts and gradually they themselves become
captive of this propaganda. They become afraid of it and begin to cause
harm to themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern age and
the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can
add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the
United States. It means that what the enemies of the United States cannot
do, its media is doing that. You can understand as to what will be the
performance of the nation in a war, which suffers from fear andhelplessness.
Ummat: What will the impact of the freeze of al-Qa'idah accounts by theUS?
Usamah: God opens up ways for those who work for Him. Freezing of accounts
will not make any difference for Al-Qaidah or other jihad groups. With the
grace of Allah, al-Qaidah has more than three such alternative financial
system, which are all separate and totally independent from each other.
This system is operating under the patronage of those who love jihad. What
to say of the United States, even the combined world cannot budge these
people from their path. These people are not in hundreds but in thousands
and millions. Al-Qaidah comprises of such modern educated youths who are
aware of the cracks inside the Western financial system as they are aware
of the lines in their hands. These are the very flaws of the Western
fiscal system, which are becoming a noose for it and this system could not
recuperate in spite of the passage of so many days.
Ummat: Are there other safe areas other than Afghanistan, where you can
Usamah: There are areas in all parts of the world where strong jihadi
forces are present, from Indonesia to Algeria, from Kabul to Chechnya,
from Bosnia to Sudan, and from Burma to Kashmir. Then it is not the
problem of my person. I am helpless fellowman of God, constantly in the
fear of my accountability before God. It is not the question of Usamah but
of Islam and, in Islam too, of jihad. Thanks to God, those waging a jihad
can walk today with their heads raised. Jihad was still present when there
was no Usamah and it will remain as such even when Usamah is no longer
there. Allah opens up ways and creates loves in the hearts of people for
those who walk on the path of Allah with their lives, property, and
children. Believe it, through jihad, a man gets everything he desires. And
the biggest desire of a Muslim is the after life. Martyrdom is the
shortest way of attaining an eternal life.
Ummat: What do you say about the Pakistan government policy on Afghanistan
attack?Usamah: We are thankful to the Momin and valiant people of Pakistan who
erected a blockade in front of the wrong forces and stood in the first
file of battle. Pakistan is a great hope for the Islamic brotherhood. Its
people are awakened, organized, and rich in the spirit of faith. They
backed Afghanistan in its war against the Soviet Union and extended every
help to the mojahedin and the Afghan people. Then these are very
Pakistanis who are standing shoulder by shoulder with the Taleban. If such
people emerge in just two countries, the domination of the West will
diminish in a matter of days. Our hearts beat with Pakistan and, God
forbid, if a difficult time comes we will protect it with our blood.
Pakistan is sacred for us like a place of worship. We are the people of
jihad and fighting for the defence of Pakistan is the best of all jihads
to us. It does not matter for us as to who rules Pakistan. The important
thing is that the spirit of jihad is alive and stronger in the hearts of
the Pakistani people.
Source: Karachi Ummat in Urdu 28 Sep 01 pp1, 7
Source: BBC Monitoring Service
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