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|12/12/01 civilian death toll by american agression in afghanistan is now 9200|
|12/12/01 at 09:08:06|
|today the figure has over taken the amount america claims to be avenging. So is it time yet for the Muslims to remove the condemnation of the attacks against the WTC and replace them with condemnation of the amount america has so far killed in Afghanistan. Do they they agree with the kaffar that some lives are worth more then others?|
now it has reached 9200, and they are still busy at it. what amount will be too much? 200 000? 2 m?
when will the Muslim victims start being called murdered instead of calaterial damage?
|Re: 12/12/01 civilian death toll by american agression in afghanistan is now 9200|
|12/12/01 at 09:16:27|
|US warplanes now targeting civilians|
PESHAWAR: Having run out of military targets in Afghanistan with the exception of Tora Bora near Jalalabad, the US warplanes wanting to get rid of their payloads, have in recent days bombed vehicles carrying civilians and flattened villages that have nothing to do with the Taliban or Al-Qaeda's Arab fighters.
In the latest instance of what has come to be known as collateral damage, the US jets killed at least ten civilians and caused injuries to another 12 when they bombed the Mashikhel village in Jaji district of Paktia province.
Two village mosques were badly damaged in the attack on Monday noon. The incident came to light when Mashikhel villagers brought the injured across the border to Parachinar, headquarters of Pakistan's Kurram's tribal agency, for medical treatment. An eyewitness, Soorat Gul, told reporters in Parachinar that the bombing outraged the villagers because there were neither Taliban nor Arabs in the village or even in the while area. Earlier on Sunday night, bombing by US warplanes killed 16 civilians in the neighbouring Paktika province that also borders Pakistan.
Eyewitnesses who reached Peshawar said Paktika's provincial capital, Sharana, and Mashkhel village sited 20 kilometres away were bombed by at least two jets. The losses were higher in Mashkhel, where four men sitting in "Etkaaf" in the Saqawa mosque were among those killed. Among them were two old men, Haji Fakhrak and Dadan Khan.
An entire family comprising Ghulam Shah, his wife and four children was wiped out in the bombing raid. It was the second time that Mashkhel village was bombed. Two weeks ago, the US jets killed four civilians when their bombs missed an abandoned Taliban base and instead fell on a populated area.
Earlier, another mosque was hit on the outskirts of Khost town killing over two dozens of the faithful when the US warplanes struck in a bid to eliminate a former Taliban minister and known mujahideen commander Mulla Jalaluddin Haqqani. Among the dead were several young Taliban below the age of 15 studying at a nearby madressa to learn the Holy Quran by heart.
The raid took place when the mosque was full during the late evening Isha'a and Taraweeh prayers. In another recent incident, a number of villagers living near the Shamshad Ghar, where a former mujahideen and Taliban base is located, were killed in US aerial strikes. The area is close to the border town of Torkham. Several reports claimed between 60 to 100 civilians were killed in the almost round-the-clock US air raids in the Tora Bora area near Jalalabad.
The massacre prompted elders of the area to condemn the US bombing and demand an end to the operation. But they found themselves helpless in the face of anti-Taliban military commanders such as Haji Mohammad Zaman, Hazrat Ali and Haji Zahir who have reportedly received substantial American military and monetary assistance to launch a ground offensive against Arab fighters loyal to Osama bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda organization.
Two of the most well documented cases of US bombing of civilian targets were Khrum village in Surkhrod district near Jalalabad and Chokar Karez village in Daman district of Kandahar province. This was made possible when the Taliban took international journalists to the two villages to assess the damage and meet survivors and relations of the victims.
Though the Taliban officials and Khrum villagers claimed that about 200 people were killed in the US aerial strikes, it would be safe to conclude that the death toll was about 100. In Chokar Karez, about 50 villagers perished in two revengeful bombing sorties by US jets and helicopter gunships.
Almost all the journalists, included those from the West, who visited the two villages felt that there were no military targets in the area and that the US pilots had erred in their judgement while offloading their payloads. Earlier, a mosque was bombed in a village near Herat killing several people.
Besides, a place hit by bombs in Herat was described as an old people's home by the US authorities and the human losses regretted. It was a revelation for people in this part of the world that an old people's home existed in Herat because such institutions have yet to be set up in most eastern countries, more so in a tribal society like Afghanistan where the presence of old people in a home is considered a blessing.
The bombing errors by US pilots, the straying of the so-called smart bombs and the killing of American and pro-US Afghan fighters by friendly fire have terrorized large sections of the Afghan population.
The US aerial strikes that began on October 7 have displaced hundreds of thousands of people, exposing them to cold and hunger and depriving them of dignity. Afghans arriving in Pakistan told The News that driving in convoys of vehicles, which is necessary to tackle bandits and highwaymen who have re-emerged after the collapse of the Taliban regime, has become dangerous because they are a favourite target of US warplanes. Vehicles driving on unpaved rural and mountain roads also become a frequent target because the Americans believe these could be Taliban and Al-Qaeda members seeking refuge in remote hideouts.
Another dangerous element introduced by the Americans in Afghanistan is the misuse of hundreds of satellites phones doled out by them to anti-Taliban commanders. These commanders are increasingly settling personal scores by misleading the Americans to bomb villages and homes of their opponents by claiming that these were Taliban or Arab hideouts.
Many Afghans claimed US warplanes bombed places on the basis of wrong intelligence information fed to them by Afghan commanders having a vested interest and killed innocent civilians. It is feared that this trend would increase now that the US has assembled an awesome military force in the Arabian Sea and in countries neighbouring Afghanistan but the targets to be hit have dwindled to just a few.
|Re: 12/12/01 civilian death toll by american agression in afghanistan is now 9200|
|12/12/01 at 23:22:43|
originally posted by NewJehad:
400 Taliban supporters massacred in Kandahar: Prisoners die in containers
CHAMAN, Dec 11: Anti-Taliban tribal forces have launched a campaign to kill non-Afghan fighters in
Kandahar and other parts of southern Afghanistan.
Reports said that over 400 non-Afghan Taliban fighters, mainly Arabs, had been trapped and massacred by
tribal militias in and around Kandahar since the Taliban surrendered Kandahar, Hilmand and Zabul.
"A large number of dead bodies of Arab Taliban were found in various parts of Kandahar region," travellers
reaching here from different parts of southern Afghanistan said. Tribal forces loyal to different warlords had
killed them, they added.
"No tribal group is sparing the Arab Taliban," Amanullah, one of the witnesses, told newsmen near the
border. People living in areas close to the Kandahar Airport had buried bodies of 21 Arab fighters the other
day, he said, adding that they had been killed by the forces loyal to the governor of Kandahar.
Sources said that other tribal groups were also involved in the killing of non-Afghan Taliban. An uneasy
calm prevailed in Kandahar city.
Intense fighting was reported for control of Lashkar Gah, capital of Hilmand.
In Spin Boldak, militiamen loyal to Wakil Abdul Samad and Akhtar Jan asked local people to surrender their
weapons. They launched a campaign to deweaponize the area to restore peace. They warned that if people
did not comply with the directive, they would raid their homes for recovery of arms and ammunition.
AFP adds: Dozens of Taliban who surrendered to the Northern Alliance died while being transported to a
prison in sealed shipping containers, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.
The prisoners, many of them foreign fighters, died during the two to three-day journey from Kunduz to
Shibarghan, Afghanistan, witnesses in Shibarghan told the daily.
On Saturday, Northern Alliance commander Colonel General Jurabek said 43 prisoners had died from
injuries or asphyxiation in six containers, while three others died from wounds after their arrival in
Several Pakistani prisoners, however, told the daily that many more people had died in the containers. One
prisoner said all but seven people died from lack of air in his container, estimating the number dead at
more than 100.
Another prisoner said 13 people died in his container and that the survivors had taken turns at breathing
through a hole in the metal wall.
A local truck driver who spoke through acquaintances, said he saw soldiers unloading many bodies from a
container outside the city.
The prisoners came from Kunduz, in northern Afghanistan, where a bloody uprising of captured Taliban
fighters last month took US-led Afghan forces two weeks to put down, causing the death of some 230
prisoners and one US Central Intelligence Agency officer - the first US combat casualty of the Afghan
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