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|reforming the Muslim world!|
|12/25/02 at 01:46:26|
|Here is your window to the future plans|
> A highly important (Arabic) newspaper article that is worth reading. Here
> is a quick summary of what it says:
> Al-Osboa Newspaper
> By Mustapha Bakry
> On the new comprehensive program proposed by the US (precisely by Colin
> Powel), and aimed at reforming the Arab and Muslim world:
> The countries of the region will be divided into the following groups
> (according to their compliance with the American 'recommendations'):
> 1- a group that will immediately and automatically respond to the program.
> This includes Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
> 2- a group that will comply under force, which includes Libya, Syria and
> 3- a group that has already taken the program into action, and this includes
> Bahrain, Kuwait and Morocco.
> - The program is aimed at making political, economical, social and, most
> importantly, educational changes in the Arab world, and the declared purpose
> is combating the roots of 'terrorism'.
> - The reforms will be backed by military force.
> - Since most of the 'terrorists' have received high education in their
> countries (i.e. they are not illiterate), the focus of reform must be on the
> curriculum and educational system of the Arab world.
> - The US administration should finance more American (primary and secondary)
> schools in the Arab world. To guarantee wider access to such schools, the
> costs of which should not be high. At the initial stage, those schools will
> be managed by American staff (administrators and academics). Arab staff
> should receive special training.
> - These schools will encompass what is being named as 'clubs of American
> freedom' (something like that!), where students learn and practice American
> democracy and the 'ideal' way of life away from violence and terrorism. The
> schools will promote for the American culture, and will promote ideas
> related to accepting the other, not to mention female participation, thus,
> suppressing religious extremism.
> - The project will be effective beginning 2003.
> - To further promote for these schools, business projects and companies will
> be established (in the Arab world) that will offer attractive salaries and
> packages to the graduates of these schools. Such graduates should also gain
> political positions in their countries, as well as other decision-making
> positions. These individuals will support American policies and will help
> in the war against terror.
> - A special program in this project will aim at translating American books
> into the Arabic language, and promoting these books in critical locations,
> such as ministries, parliaments, universities etc. This program will be
> aligned with another program that aims at translating books and stories
> about the ideal American way of life that will be integrated into the
> curriculum of the government (i.e. state) schools of those (Arab) countries.
> - Arab women should practice direct and 'real' economical and political
> roles in their countries, and should have high positions. A group of
> leading Arab women will be prepared for this purpose at the initial stage,
> and then the US role will be limited to supporting these female leaders due
> to the sensitivity of this issue in the Arab world. These movements should
> have power in their local parliaments, and should be in constant contact
> with foreign countries, specially the US, in case they are faced with local
> obstacles. A special budget will be assigned for this project.
> How this proposed project to be taken into action is even more interesting!
> For more information, go to:
|12/25/02 at 03:10:30|
|Re: reforming the Muslim world!|
|12/26/02 at 03:32:44|
|Allah Subhana Wataallah forbid!|
|What's your stance?|
|12/30/02 at 13:11:06|
|I don’t know how I came across this website (I wasn’t doing a search for “Muslim”, or Islam”, or anything religiously related), but I’m glad I have.|
To give you a quick background: I’m a Canadian (Vancouver, born and raised) Caucasian male, late 20’s, Catholic raised, and currently what I would deem as Agnostic. I have my personal beliefs in God, but my beliefs don’t necessarily fall under any religious guidelines.
My wife is a Fijian Muslim. I met her the fist day of first year University courses, and instantly fell for her. She was born in Fiji, moved here as a child, and raised in a Sunni Muslin household. When the time came for me to ask her dad for her hand in marriage, he basically said that in order to marry his daughter, I would need to accept Islam into my household. We’re raising our children as Muslims, albeit in a Western society. I converted, but I think it is safe to say that I don’t march to the same beat as my in-laws.
To give a quick answer to the question, “Why don’t you follow any religious beliefs”, the quick answer is that I see too many religious groups (Christian & Muslim predominant) whom harm others in the name of religion. I see too much segregation (color and religion being the main perpetrators of segregation / prejudism) in our societies, and I don’t tolerate this.
I know that recent current events have probably been over discussed over these pages, so I’ll apologies in advance. My concern locally is with the reaction from the Muslim community regarding the events of and subsequent to September 11, 2001. I have heard very few Muslim groups in North America, and especially locally in Vancouver, come out and condemn these actions. I have heard very few, if any, Muslim people come out and condemn Sadam Hussein for the torture and mistreatment of his own people. I have heard very little criticism of any violent actions by people whom claim to commit these actions in the name of “Islam”.
My father in law convinced me that the Koran preached love, peace, and acceptance of others. Having done some research myself, I find that once you get down to the guts of the matter, the message Islam sends is the same that Christianity sends. To me, the fact of weather Jesus was God’s son or a Prophet is irrelevant. The message is the same.
Having said that, why the silence? Why is there a reluctance to speak out against those of your religion of commit heinous acts or violence- like that of September 11th?
If there are any thread references on this site, please feel free to refer me to them.
|Re: reforming the Muslim world!|
|12/30/02 at 13:27:41|
|Welcome to the board "Dude" :) |
We've had this discussion before.. and pretty heatedly. Basically what it boils down to is that American Muslims believe they did everything they could... they issued statements and press releases, they held mosque open houses.. they spoke at hundreds of inter faith vigils and remembrance events.. they gave seminars and teach ins. there are many people who did many things including many people on this message board itself so if they wanted maybe they could post..
As for the perception in the greater American public.. I don't know...I really don't know why the average person doesn't get this news. I can't believe that they've never heard it or read about Muslim groups condemning 9/11 because I myself read articles in the NYTimes, Washington Post etc...and I myself was on our local news at least 3 times.. so ?
Anyway check out this report by CAIR it gives a pretty good summary of what the major muslim organizations did. It doesn't cover local stuff that every mosque and community did, but you get the idea...
(Washington, D.C.) - A report released today by a national Islamic civil rights and advocacy group indicates that American Muslims took a strong stand against terrorism in the year since the 9/11 attacks. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) report, called "American Muslims: One Year After 9/11," outlines condemnations of the attacks by national Muslim leaders, Islamic scholars and local religious institutions.
To download the report, go to: http://www.cair-net.org/911report
The report quotes a statement issued within hours of the attacks and endorsed by almost every major American Muslim organization. That statement read in part: "American Muslims utterly condemn what are…vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts."
It also quoted a full-page CAIR advertisement published in the Washington Post on September 16, 2001. The advertisement stated: "Our thoughts and prayers are with the families, friends and loved ones of those who have been killed or injured...May we all stand together through these difficult times to promote peace and love over violence and hate."
Other issues discussed in CAIR's report include: 1) the American Muslim community's support for efforts by law enforcement to bring the perpetrators to justice, 2) Muslim assistance in the 9/11 relief efforts, 3) outreach by local Muslim communities in the wake of the attacks, 4) support offered to Muslims by Americans of other faiths, 5) the post-9/11 backlash against Muslims or those perceived to be "Middle Eastern," 6) the role anti-Muslim rhetoric plays in promoting hate and bigotry, and 7) the curtailment of civil liberties by government policies targeting Muslims and Arab-Americans.
"The events of 9/11 marked a turning point for the American Muslim community. It is not yet clear whether the voices of interfaith tolerance will win out over those preaching anti-Muslim prejudice," said Dr. Mohamed Nimer, the report's author.
An earlier CAIR study indicated that a majority of American Muslims experienced bias or discrimination since the 9/11 terrorist attacks but, more than three-in-four also experienced kindness or support from friends or colleagues of other faiths.
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