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|01/16/02 at 05:40:50|
i have to do a presentation on hinduism):( it only has to last a few mins:) ...so please can anyone do it 4 me??? like tell me exactly what i should say in it and do;)
nah, actually i need some sites that give me a bit of info!!! ...or just tell me what u know-i know a lil but it cant b to complex, or the class will get confused...ect;)
|01/15/02 at 10:12:23|
just curiuos to know why you chose the topic. Try this site [url=http://www.bigchalk.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WOPortal.woa/wa/HWCDA/hwcbetween?search=hindu&underSID=74844&whatsite=teens]here[/url]
I haven't gone throught the items listed there so i can only hope that it is of some help, Insha Allah.
|01/15/02 at 10:53:27|
|I know a decent amount about Hinduism. Like you can't convert but must be born Hindu. Converts who follow Krishna as Hari-Krishnas...if you want you can email me and I'll let you know what I have, what in specific is your report about? The Gods/Pantheon, the people, the culture, the religious practices, creation stories, history, etc...If it's open ended I think the Devi Dasi's are an interesting subject...|
I too am curious though, did you choose this or was it assigned? What made you choose Hinduism?
|01/15/02 at 11:03:32|
I was born into a hindu home and know quite a bit about my old faith.
Msg me if you want or just put up the questions.
As well, be careful of websites that will post errorneous Western perspective information... want the info, go to the source. asalamau alaikum. abdullah,.
more later insha'Allah.
|01/15/02 at 12:40:08|
|Anki is completely right. I'd still be happy to let you know what I have learned but there's nothing like first hand experiance to give you an insight. And that, I can't claim to have :)|
|01/16/02 at 05:46:28|
"just curiuos to know why you chose the topic."
-lol i didnt:(
"I too am curious though, did you choose this or was it assigned? What made you choose Hinduism?"
-nah, i was off the day they got to choose and ma friend picked hinduism 4 me at random;)-typical.
I'm still tryin to choose which section i should do!!!
i was thinkin of hindu festivals.
Br.Anik could u please tell me wat the most important festival is in hinduism???
|01/16/02 at 16:12:48|
Anik, the BIG question, is Hinduism really Shirk, or do Hindus ultimately worship one God ?
|01/16/02 at 19:17:14|
|I think Hinduism does believe in One ultimate force but splits these into a christianity type trinity- Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma each of whom represent a different 'aspect' or role of God. Each of these has a female consort, Goddess, that further represent each aspect of the same being.For example, knowledge, destruction etc. Theres also myths behind these gods which are quite baffling and bizzare and how these and the countless degrading images portrayed of God can be attributed towards the One Perfect being, just beats me.|
I'd like to understand more but always get confused.
|01/17/02 at 02:06:16|
I just typed a long ressponse which got deleted (these are the types when you have to kind of take a deep breath, count to 10 (more like one million) and say "Allahu Akbhar")
I used to be a hindu preacher type of guy and used to teach about it in high school religion classes...
Now understand this, there is a lot of discrepency on hinduism.
It is not one religion, by ANY means...
it is SO vast.. so opposing... so many different beliefs, ideas, scriptures... personal shapings, innovations, make-belief and time development as well as regional and cultural splits that it is hoeplessly divided and unco0mpromised.
Hinduism itself has extremes where it can be a monotheistic, non-idol worshipping type of religion about philosophy and deep thought, or major shirk and Greek-like.
When you say, can you convert to hindu,
hindu is nothing substantial.
there is no one single unifying belief or something that encompases every last person's opinion on hindusim.
In fact, everyone is in that sense a hindu (from their perspective) because everyone is subject to its "truths"
so yes you can convert to hindu, just start doing what other hindus do
Other people will say however that what you were born was preordained by... God... and thus you are what you are and so on. In modern terms, you can convert although the idea of conversion was first brought by Islam.
I have found that they have no conception of converting or changing religion.
It has only become compartmentalized, like a distinct religion, when the presence of other MONOTHEISTIC religions came into view.
In fact, the word "hinduism" was only invented a few hundred years ago by a Brit who came and saw these vast and weird pagan-like religions (note the pluralism) in the Indus Valley river basin (northern India).
The river Sindhu, was turned to the name Indus by PErsian invaders, then Indus became hindu, so it is a misnomer of the river Sindhu.
Thus, the typical ignorant foreigner comes in and just slapped a label on the pagans, so to speak.
Originally, "hindusim" in its popular form, the mainstream and intellectual (as opposed to the tribal sort of innovations) is
Sanatan Dharma (the Eternal Religion).
It has MANY scriptures that are HUGE, written in Sanskrit through hundreds of years and some are straighforward, others very complex and deep.
Two types of knowledge:
Oral and written (Shruti and Smriti)
One main body is the Vedas (Knowledge): 4 types: Rig, Yajur, Samva, Atharva.
Then Puranas,Upanishads (all 108 of them), two epics called Mahabharata (stories of Krishna) and Ramayana.
The Bhagavad Gita, today's most popular scripture, is an excerpt poem from the Mahabharata.
Believe me, these thing are SOOO long, like just one is 26 times the length of the Bible apparently.
And then, there are various sutras (lessons including, yes, the Kama Sutra) and other books.
Basically, anyone who had a bit of abstract knowledge wrote a book and it became scripture as long as it was widely accepted.
Manu also wrote a length law book.
Hinduism has no founder. It just develops and goes with the flow.
Any man who does something great or is histroic can end up being a god or god-incarnate in some sects.
Example: some people believe Mahatma Gandhi-ji was an incarnation of Krishna.
One major festival is Deepavali (Diwali as it is shortened), Festival of Lights. It symbolizes when Ram, a human incanration of Vishnu, to them, returned home after killing Ravana, the demon lord from Sri Lanka.
Men become Gods. Ridiculous.
Then again, some people are enlightened above this and believe in only one God.
This is called Para-Brahma, or the Param-Athma (Greatest Soul)
the religion is thus not monotheistic (one God) or polytheistic (many gods)
but monoistic, or One Source (monoism)
Gosh, there is so much to talk about with this...
It is the most vast and expansive religion I have ever imagined.
It has a plethora of cults behind it, sects, practices.
Of course, I suggest you stick with "whiteman's hinduism" (forgive me for the use of the racial colloquialism)
In other words, not what hindusim truly is, but most hypocritically, what it is commonly percieved as.
In this sect, called Vaishnavism (followers of Vishnu, God of Sustaining, often considered the supreme source)
It is just to expansive a topic to be explaine din a project, so stay with mainstream and just be accurate about that sect.
Hinduism began as a very open and One-God religion (which is why I respected it and I say it was a precursor to Islam) but it was "legendified" and commonfolk needed to put statues to gods and parables to explanations and never really grew out of them.
It is EXTREMELY confusing. Just ask specific questions and I'll try my best to answer, but these sort of wide open-ended questions neede volumes of explanation. asalamu alaikum. abdullah,.
|01/17/02 at 03:46:31|
What significance do myths have in Hinduism? Are some of these actually believed by Hindus to be true real life occurances? Theres so many about each god some of which are of a explicit nature and others just plain and simple bizzare. For eg. how ganesh got his head, his father Shiva chopping it off after mistakingly taking him for an enemy. I mean how can this 'God' make such a silly mistake. Other myths/stories about their Gods are similar if not worse. Thats why I find hinduism degrading to the One perfect being.
I've got tons more questions to ask :)
|01/17/02 at 04:13:06|
yeah they are pretty silly
1) these stories are true and they happened. they are literal and should be taken as reality and truth, thus, Ganesh did get his head cut off by his dad and basically got an elephant-head transplant
2) they are symbolic to show ideas (ie. the elephant head shows big ears, hence wisdomand learning for Ganesh is the wisdom and obstacle remover)
keep asking. myths play such a large part they often take over nay truth the religion has. aslaamu alaikum. abdullah,.
|01/18/02 at 06:24:37|
hehe, this is gettin more confusin ~(lol):) may coz i heard to many different sides!!!
but jazak'allah every one- u did ma hwk 4 me;), i'm just copy and pastin wat ya all said and i'm gonna go and say exactly the same-hehe!!! i luv takin the easy way out;)
|01/18/02 at 13:15:50|
Thank you Anik for that wonderful explanation of things. I must say i found it fascinating! I am thinking I would like to study Hinduism a bit further. When I learned about it in high school, i found it to be very boring and it really put me off. I enjoyed learning about Buddhism more in fact. I guess because it can be very intelectual. However Zen Buddhisim--i found to be not as interesting. I guess it's too abstract and I saw no practicality in it.
I guess it's different when you hear it from someone who has a first hand knowledge of it. I want to hear more about it. :)
So tell me. Is Hinduism older than Greek mythology?
|01/19/02 at 03:56:44|
|INTRODUCTION TO HINDUISM|
Dr. Zakir Naik
I INTRODUCTION TO HINDUISM:
The most popular among the Aryan religions is Hinduism. ‘Hindu’ is actually a Persian word that stands for the inhabitants of the region beyond the Indus Valley. However, in common parlance, Hinduism is a blanket term for an assortment of religious beliefs, most of which are based on the Vedas, the Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita.
II INTRODUCTION TO HINDU SCRIPTURES.
There are several sacred scriptures of the Hindus. Among these are the Vedas, Upanishads and the Puranas.
The word Veda is derived from vid which means to know, knowledge par excellence or sacred wisdom. There are four principal divisions of the Vedas (although according to their number, they amount to 1131 out of which about a dozen are available). According to Maha Bhashya of Patanjali, there are 21 branches of Rigveda, 9 types of Atharvaveda, 101 branches of Yajurveda and 1000 of Samveda).
The Rigveda, the Yajurveda and the Samveda are considered to be more ancient books and are known as Trai Viddya or the ‘Triple Sciences’. The Rigveda is the oldest and has been compiled in three long and different periods of time. The 4th Veda is the Atharvaveda, which is of a later date.
There is no unanimous opinion regarding the date of compilation or revelation of the four Vedas. According to Swami Dayanand, founder of the Arya Samaj, the Vedas were revealed 1310 million years ago. According to other scholars, they are not more than 4000 years old.
Similarly, there are differing opinions regarding the places where these books were compiled and the Rishis to whom these Scriptures were given. Inspite of these differences, the Vedas are considered to be the most authentic of the Hindu Scriptures and the real foundations of the Hindu Dharma.
The word 'Upanishad' is derived from Upa meaning near, Ni which means down and Shad means to sit. Therefore ‘Upanishad’ means sitting down near. Groups of pupils sit near the teacher to learn from him the secret doctrines.
According to Samkara, ‘Upanishad’ is derived from the root word Sad which means ‘to loosen’, ‘to reach’ or ‘to destroy’, with Upa and ni as prefix; therefore ‘Upanishad’ means Brahma-Knowledge by which ignorance is loosened or destroyed.
The number of Upanishads exceeds 200 though the Indian tradition puts it at 108. There are 10 principal Upanishads. However, some consider them to be more than 10, while others 18.
The Vedanta meant originally the Upanishads, though the word is now used for the system of philosophy based on the Upanishad. Literally, Vedanta means the end of the Veda, Vedasua-antah, and the conclusion as well as the goal of Vedas. The Upanishads are the concluding portion of the Vedas and chronologically they come at the end of the Vedic period.
Some Pundits consider the Upanishads to be more superior to the Vedas.
Next in order of authenticity are the Puranas which are the most widely read scriptures. It is believed that the Puranas contain the history of the creation of the universe, history of the early Aryan tribes, life stories of the divines and deities of the Hindus. It is also believed that the Puranas are revealed books like the Vedas, which were revealed simultaneously with the Vedas or sometime close to it.
Maharishi Vyasa has divided the Puranas into 18 voluminous parts. He also arranged the Vedas under various heads.
Chief among the Puranas is a book known as Bhavishya Purana. It is called so because it is believed to give an account of future events. The Hindus consider it to be the word of God. Maharishi yasa is considered to be just the compiler of the book.
The two epics of Hinduism are the Ramayana and the Mahabharata.
According to Ramanuja, the great scholar of Ramayana, there are more than 300 different types of Ramayana: Tulsidas Ramayana, Kumbha Ramayana. Though the outline of Ramayana is same, the details and contents differ.
Unlike the Mahabharata, the Ramayana appears to be the work of one person – the sage Valmiki, who probably composed it in the 3rd century BC. Its best-known recension (by Tulsi Das, 1532-1623) consists of 24,000 rhymed couplets of 16-syllable lines organised into 7 books. The poem incorporates many ancient legends and draws on the sacred books of the Vedas. It describes the efforts of Kosala’s heir, Rama, to regain his throne and rescue his wife, Sita, from the demon King of Lanka.
Valmiki's Ramayana is a Hindu epic tradition whose earliest literary version is a Sanskrit poem attributed to the sage Valmiki. Its principal characters are said to present ideal models of personal, familial, and social behavior and hence are considered to exemplify Dharma, the principle of moral order.
The nucleus of the Mahabharata is the war of eighteen days fought between the Kauravas, the hundred sons of Dhritarashtra and Pandavas, the five sons of Pandu. The epic entails all the circumstances leading upto the war. Involved in this Kurukshetra battle were almost all the kings of India joining either of the two parties. The result of this war was the total annihilation of Kauravas and their party. Yudhishthira, the head of the Pandavas, became the sovereign monarch of Hastinapura. His victory is supposed to symbolise the victory of good over evil. But with the progress of years, new matters and episodes relating to the various aspects of human life, social, economic, political, moral and religious as also fragments of other heroic legends came to be added to the aforesaid nucleus and this phenomenon continued for centuries until it acquired the present shape. The Mahabharata represents a whole literature rather than one single and unified work, and contains many multifarious things.
C. Bhagavad Gita:
Bhagavad Gita is a part of Mahabharata. It is the advice given by Krishna to Arjun on the battlefield of Kurukshetra. It contains the essence of the Vedas and is the most popular of all the Hindu Scriptures. It contains 18 chapters.
The Bhagavad Gita is one of the most widely read and revered of the works sacred to the Hindus. It is their chief devotional book, and has been for centuries the principal source of religious inspiration for many thousands of Hindus.
The Gita is a dramatic poem, which forms a small part of the larger epic, the Mahabharata. It is included in the sixth book (Bhismaparvan) of the Mahabaharata and documents one tiny event in a huge epic tale.
The Bhagavad Gita tells a story of a moral crisis faced by Arjuna, which is solved through the interaction between Arjuna, a Pandava warrior hesitating before battle, and Krishna, his charioteer and teacher. The Bhagavad Gita relates a brief incident in the main story of a rivalry and eventually a war between two branches of a royal family. In that brief incident - a pause on the battlefield just as the battle is about to begin - Krishna, one chief on one side (also believed to be the Lord incarnate), is presented as responding to the doubts of Arjuna. The poem is the dialogue through which Arjuna’s doubts were resolved by Krishna’s teachings.
|01/19/02 at 04:00:53|
|CONCEPT OF GOD IN HINDUISM|
Dr. Zakir Naik
Common Concept of God in Hinduism:
Hinduism is commonly perceived as a polytheistic religion. Indeed, most Hindus would attest to this, by professing belief in multiple Gods. While some Hindus believe in the existence of three gods, some believe in thousands of gods, and some others in thirty three crore i.e. 330 million Gods. However, learned Hindus, who are well versed in their scriptures, insist that a Hindu should believe in and worship only one God.
The major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim perception of God is the common Hindus’ belief in the philosophy of Pantheism. Pantheism considers everything, living and non-living, to be Divine and Sacred. The common Hindu, therefore, considers everything as God. He considers the trees as God, the sun as God, the moon as God, the monkey as God, the snake as God and even human beings as manifestations of God!
Islam, on the contrary, exhorts man to consider himself and his surroundings as examples of Divine Creation rather than as divinity itself. Muslims therefore believe that everything is God’s i.e. the word ‘God’ with an apostrophe ‘s’. In other words the Muslims believe that everything belongs to God. The trees belong to God, the sun belongs to God, the moon belongs to God, the monkey belongs to God, the snake belongs to God, the human beings belong to God and everything in this universe belongs to God.
Thus the major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim beliefs is the difference of the apostrophe ‘s’. The Hindu says everything is God. The Muslim says everything is God’s.
Concept of God according to Hindu Scriptures:
We can gain a better understanding of the concept of God in Hinduism by analysing Hindu scriptures.
The most popular amongst all the Hindu scriptures is the Bhagavad Gita.
Consider the following verse from the Gita:
"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures."
[Bhagavad Gita 7:20]
The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God.
The Upanishads are considered sacred scriptures by the Hindus.
The following verses from the Upanishads refer to the Concept of God:
"He is One only without a second."
[Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1
"Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah."
"Of Him there are neither parents nor lord."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]2
"Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]3
The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form:
"Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam."
"His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]4
Vedas are considered the most sacred of all the Hindu scriptures. There are four principal Vedas: Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samveda and Atharvaveda.
The following verses from the Yajurveda echo a similar concept of God:
"na tasya pratima asti
"There is no image of Him."
"He is bodyless and pure."
"Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.
The Yajurveda contains the following prayer:
"Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander."
The Atharvaveda praises God in Book 20, hymn 58 and verse 3:
"Dev maha osi"
"God is verily great"
The oldest of all the vedas is Rigveda. It is also the one considered most sacred by the Hindus. The Rigveda states in Book 1, hymn 164 and verse 46:
"Sages (learned Priests) call one God by many names."
The Rigveda gives several different attributes to Almighty God. Many of these are mentioned in Rigveda Book 2 hymn 1.
Among the various attributes of God, one of the beautiful attributes mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3, is Brahma. Brahma means ‘The Creator’. Translated into Arabic it means Khaaliq. Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Khaaliq or ‘Creator’ or Brahma. However if it is said that Brahma is Almighty God who has four heads with each head having a crown, Muslims take strong exception to it.
Describing Almighty God in anthropomorphic terms also goes against the following verse of Yajurveda:
"Na tasya Pratima asti"
"There is no image of Him."
Another beautiful attribute of God mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3 is Vishnu. Vishnu means ‘The Sustainer’. Translated into Arabic it means Rabb. Again, Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Rabb or 'Sustainer' or Vishnu. But the popular image of
Vishnu among Hindus, is that of a God who has four arms, with one of the right arms holding the Chakra, i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holding a ‘conch shell’, or riding a bird or reclining on a snake couch. Muslims can never accept any image of God. As mentioned earlier this also goes against Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19.
"Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him"
The following verse from the Rigveda Book 8, hymn 1, verse 1 refer to the Unity and Glory of the Supreme Being:
"Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata"
"O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone."
"Devasya samituk parishtutih"
"Verily, great is the glory of the Divine Creator."
Brahma Sutra of Hinduism:
The Brahma Sutra of Hinduism is:
"Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"
"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."
Thus only a dispassionate study of the Hindu scriptures can help one understand the concept of God in Hinduism.
as from the sun." The Prophecy confirms:
The name of the Prophet as Ahmed since Ahmed is an Arabic name. Many translators misunderstood it to be ‘Ahm at hi’ and translated the mantra as "I alone have acquired the real wisdom of my father".
Prophet was given eternal law, i.e. the Shariah.
The Rishi was enlightened by the Shariah of Prophet Muhammad. The Qur’an says in Surah Saba Chapter 34 verse 28 (34:28):
"We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not."
|01/19/02 at 04:01:47|
|MUHAMMAD (saw) IN HINDU SCRIPTURES|
Muhammad (pbuh) prophesised in Bhavishya Purana
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Prophesised in Atharvaveda
Muhammad (pbuh) prophesised in the Rigveda
Muhummad (pbuh) is also prophesised in the Samveda
I) Muhammad (pbuh) prophesised in Bhavishya Purana
1. According to Bhavishya Purana in the Prati Sarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 5 to 8.
"A malecha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking a foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mohammad. Raja (Bhoj) after giving this Maha Dev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the Panchgavya and the Ganga water (i.e. purifying him of all sins) offered him the present of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, "I make obeisance to thee. O ye! The pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malecha opponents."
The Prophecy clearly states:
(i) The name of the Prophet as Mohammad.
(ii) He will belong to Arabia. The Sanskrit word Marusthal means a sandy track of land or a desert.
(iii) Special mention is made of the companions of the Prophet, i.e. the Sahabas. No other Prophet had as many companions as Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
(iv) He is referred as the pride of mankind (Parbatis nath). The Glorious Qur’an reconfirms this
"And thou (standest) on an exalted standard of character"
"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah, a beautiful pattern (of conduct)".
(v) He will kill the devil, i.e. abolish idol worship and all sorts of vices.
(vi) The Prophet will be given protection against his enemy.
Some people may argue that Raja Bhoj mentioned in the prophecy lived in the 11th century C.E. 500 years after the advent of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and was the descendant in the 10th generation of Raja Shalivahan. These people fail to realise that there was not only one Raja of the name Bhoj. The Egyptian Monarchs were called as Pharaoh and the Roman Kings were known as Caesar, similarly the Indian Rajas were given the title of Bhoj. There were several Raj Bhoj who came before the one in 11th Century C.E.
The Prophet did not physically take a bath in the Panchgavya and the water of Ganges. Since the water of Ganges is considered holy, taking bath in the Ganges is an idiom, which means washing away sins or immunity from all sorts of sins. Here the prophecy implies that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sinless, i.e. Maasoom.
2. According to Bhavishya Purana in the Pratisarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 10 to 27 Maharishi Vyas has prophesised:
"The Malecha have spoiled the well-known land of the Arabs. Arya Dharma is not to be found in the country. Before also there appeared a misguided fiend whom I had killed; he has now again appeared being sent by a powerful enemy. To show these enemies the right path and to give them guidance, the well-known Muhammad (pbuh), is busy in bringing the Pishachas to the right path. O Raja, You need not go to the land of the foolish Pishachas, you will be purified through my kindness even where you are. At night, he of the angelic disposition, the shrewd man, in the guise of Pishacha said to Raja Bhoj, "O Raja! Your Arya Dharma has been made to prevail over all religions, but according to the commandments of Ishwar Parmatma, I shall enforce the strong creed of the meat eaters. My followers will be men circumcised, without a tail (on his head), keeping beard, creating a revolution announcing the Aadhaan (the Muslim call for prayer) and will be eating all lawful things. He will eat all sorts of animals except swine. They will not seek purification from the holy shrubs, but will be purified through warfare. On account of their fighting the irreligious nations, they will be known as Musalmaans. I shall be the originator of this religion of the meat-eating nations."
The Prophecy states that:
(i) The evil doers have corrupted the Arab land.
(ii) Arya Dharma is not found in that land.
(iii) The Indian Raja need not go the Arab land since his purification will take place in India after the musalmaan will arrive in India.
(iv) The coming Prophet will attest the truth of the Aryan faith, i.e. Monotheism and will reform the misguided people.
(v) The Prophet’s followers will be circumcised. They will be without a tail on the head and bear a beard and will create a great revolution.
(vi) They will announce the Aadhaan, i.e. ‘the Muslim call for prayer’.
(vii) He will only eat lawful things and animals but will not eat pork. The Qur’an confirms this in no less than 4 different places:
In Surah Al-Baqarah chapter 2 verse 173
In Surah Al-Maidah chapter 5 verse 3
In Surah Al-Anam chapter 6 verse 145
In Surah Al-Nahl chapter 16 verse 115
"Forbidden to you for food are dead meat, blood, flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah".
(viii) They will not purify with grass like the Hindus but by means of sword they will fight their irreligious people.
(ix) They will be called musalmaan.
(x) They will be a meat-eating nation.
The eating of herbivorous animals is confirmed by the Qur’an in Surah Maidah, chapter 5 verse 1 and in Surah Muminun chapter 23 verse 21
3. According to Bhavishya Purana, Parv - III Khand 1 Adhay 3 Shloka 21-23:
"Corruption and persecution are found in seven sacred cities of Kashi, etc. India is inhabited by Rakshas, Shabor, Bhil and other foolish people. In the land of Malechhas, the followers of the Malechha dharma (Islam) are wise and brave people. All good qualities are found in Musalmaans and all sorts of vices have accumulated in the land of the Aryas. Islam will rule in India and its islands. Having known these facts, O Muni, glorify the name of thy lord".
The Qur’an confirms this in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 33 and in Surah Al Saff chapter 61 verse 9:
"It is He who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it)".
A similar message is given in Surah Fatah chapter 48 verses 28 ending with, "and enough is Allah as a witness".
II Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Prophesised in Atharvaveda
1. In the 20th book of Atharvaveda Hymn 127 Some Suktas (chapters) are known as Kuntap Sukta. Kuntap means the consumer of misery and troubles. Thus meaning the message of peace and safety and if translated in Arabic means Islam.
Kuntap also means hidden glands in the abdomen. These mantras are called so probably because their true meaning was hidden and was to be revealed in future. Its hidden meaning is also connected with the navel or the middle point of this earth. Makkah is called the Ummul Qur’a the mother of the towns or the naval of the earth. In many revealed books it was the first house of Divine worship where God Almighty gave spiritual nourishment to the world. The Qur’an says in
Surah Ali-Imran chapter 3, verse 96:
"The first house (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakkah (Makkah) full of blessings and of guidance and for all kinds of beings".
Thus Kuntap stands for Makkah or Bakkah.
Several people have translated these Kuntap Suktas like M. Bloomfield, Prof. Ralph Griffith, Pandit Rajaram, Pandit Khem Karan, etc.
The main points mentioned in the Kuntap Suktas i.e. in Atharvaveda book 20 Hymn 127 verses 1-13 are:
He is Narashansah or the praised one (Muhammad). He is Kaurama: the prince of peace or the emigrant, who is safe, even amongst a host of 60,090 enemies.
b) Mantra 2
He is a camel-riding Rishi, whose chariot touches the heaven.
c) Mantra 3
He is Mamah Rishi who is given a hundred gold coins, ten chaplets (necklaces), three hundred good steeds and ten thousand cows.
d) Mantra 4
Vachyesv rebh. ‘Oh! ye who glorifies’.
(i) The Sanskrit word Narashansah means ‘the praised one’, which is the literal translation of the Arabic word Muhammad (pbuh).
The Sanskrit word Kaurama means ‘one who spreads and promotes peace’. The holy Prophet was the ‘Prince of Peace’ and he preached equality of human kind and universal brotherhood. Kaurama also means an emigrant. The Prophet migrated from Makkah to Madinah and was thus also an Emigrant.
(ii) He will be protected from 60,090 enemies, which was the population of Makkah. The Prophet would ride a camel. This clearly indicates that it cannot be an Indian Rishi, since it is forbidden for a Brahman to ride a camel according to the Sacred Books of the East, volume 25, Laws of Manu pg. 472. According to Manu Smirti chapter 11 verse 202, "A Brahman is prohibited from riding a camel or an ass and to bathe naked. He should purify himself by suppressing his breath".
(iii) (a) This mantra gave the Rishi's name as Mamah. No rishi in India or another Prophet had this name Mamah which is derived from Mah which means to esteem highly, or to revere, to exalt, etc. Some Sanskrit books give the Prophet’s name as ‘Mohammad’, but this word according to Sanskrit grammar can also be used in the bad sense. It is incorrect to apply grammar to an Arabic word. Actually shas the same meaning and somewhat similar pronunciation as the word Muhammad (pbuh).
(b) He is given 100 gold coins, which refers to the believers and the earlier companions of the Prophet during his turbulent Makkan life. Later on due to persecution they migrated from Makkah to Abysinia. Later when Prophet migrated to Madinah all of them joined him in Madinah.
(c) The 10 chaplets or necklaces were the 10 best companions of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) known as Ashra-Mubbashshira (10 bestowed with good news). These were foretold in this world of their salvation in the hereafter i.e. they were given the good news of entering paradise by the Prophet’s own lips and after naming each one he said "in Paradise". They were Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali, Talha, Zubair, Abdur Rahman Ibn Auf, Saad bin Abi Waqqas, Saad bin Zaid and Abu Ubaidah (May Allah be well-pleased with all of them).
(d) The Sanskrit word Go is derived from Gaw which means ‘to go to war’. A cow is also called Go and is a symbol of war as well as peace. The 10,000 cows refer to the 10,000 companions who accompanied the Prophet (pbuh) when he entered Makkah during Fateh Makkah which was a unique victory in the history of mankind in which there was no blood shed. The 10,000 companions were pious and compassionate like cows and were at the same time strong and fierce and are described in the Holy Quran in Surah Fatah:
"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other."
(iv) This mantra calls the Prophet as Rebh which means one who praises, which when translated into Arabic is Ahmed, which is another name for the Holy Prophet (pbuh).
2. Battle of the Allies described in the Vedas.
It is mentioned in Atharvaveda Book XX Hymn 21 verse 6, "Lord of the truthful! These liberators drink these feats of bravery and the inspiring songs gladdened thee in the field of battle. When thou renders vanquished without fight the ten thousand opponents of the praying one, the adoring one."
(i) This Prophecy of the Veda describes the well-known battle of Ahzab or the battle of the Allies during the time of Prophet Muhammed. The Prophet was victorious without an actual conflict which is mentioned in the Qur’an in Surah Ahzab:
"When the believers saw the confederate forces they said, "This is what Allah and His Messenger had promised us and Allah and His Messenger told us what was true." And it only added to their faith and their zeal in obedience."
(ii) The Sanskrit word karo in the Mantra means the ‘praying one’ which when translated
into Arabic means ‘Ahmed’, the second name of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh).
iii) The 10,000 opponents mentioned in the Mantra were the enemies of the Prophet and the Muslims were only 3000 in number.
iv) The last words of the Mantra aprati ni bashayah means the defeat was given to the enemies without an actual fight.
3. The enemies’ defeat in the conquest of Makkah is mentioned in Atharvaveda book 20 Hymn 21 verse no 9:
"You have O Indra, overthrown 20 kings and 60,099 men with an outstripping Chariot wheel who came to fight the praised one or far famed (Muhammad) orphan."
i) The population of Makkah at the time of Prophet’s advent was nearly 60,000.
ii) There were several clans in Makkah each having its own chief. Totally there were about 20 chiefs to rule the population of Makkah.
iii) An Abandhu meaning a helpless man who was far-famed and ‘praised one’. Muhammad (pbuh) overcame his enemies with the help of God.
III Muhammad (pbuh) prophesised in the Rigveda
A similar prophecy is also found in Rigveda Book I, Hymn 53 verse 9:
The Sanskrit word used is Sushrama, which means praiseworthy or well praised which in Arabic means Muhammad (pbuh).
IV Muhummad (pbuh) is also prophesised in the Samveda
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is also prophesised in the Samveda Book II Hymn 6 verse 8:
"Ahmed acquired from his Lord the knowledge of eternal law. I received light from him just as from the sun." The Prophecy confirms:
i) The name of the Prophet as Ahmed since Ahmed is an Arabic name. Many translators misunderstood it to be Ahm at hi and translated the mantra as "I alone have acquired the real wisdom of my father".
ii) Prophet was given eternal law, i.e. the Shariah.
iii) The Rishi was enlightened by the Shariah of Prophet Muhammad. The Qur’an says in Surah Saba chapter 34 verse 28
"We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not."
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|COMMON QUESTIONS ASKED BY HINDUS ABOUT ISLAM|
Dr. Zakir Naik
IDOL USED FOR CONCENTRATION
The Hindu Pundits and Scholars agree that the Vedas and other Hindu religious scriptures prohibit idol worship, but initially because the mind may not be matured, an idol is required for concentration while worshipping. After the mind reaches higher consciousness, the idol is not required for concentration.
Muslims have reached the higher level of consciousness
Muslims have reached the higher level of consciousness. If an idol is required for concentration only in the initial stages and not later on when the mind reaches higher consciousness then I would like to say the Muslims have already reached the state of higher consciousness because when we worship Allah (swt) we do not require any idol or statue.
Child asks why does it thunder?
When I was discussing with a Swami in IRF. He said that when our child asks us, "Why does the sky thunder?", we reply that "aaee ma chakki pees rahi hai", the grandmother is grinding flour in the heaven; because he is too young to understand. Similarly in the initial stages people require an idol for concentration.
In Islam we don’t believe in telling a lie, even if it’s a white lie. I will never give such a wrong answer to my child because later on when he goes to school and learns that the thundering sound after lightning is due to the expansion of rapidly heated air, he will either think that the teacher is lying or later on when he understands the fact he will conclude that the father is a liar. If you feel that the child may not understand certain difficult things you should simplify the answer rather than give a wrong fictitious reply. If you, yourself do not know the answer, you should have the guts to be truthful and say ‘I don’t know’. But many children nowadays will not be satisfied with this answer. If this answer was given to my son, he would say "Abba (father), why don’t you know?’ This will compel you to do your homework and thus educate yourself as well as your child.
Those in standard one require idol for concentration – (2 + 2 = 4 will remain same in standard one and ten)
Some pundits while trying to convince me regarding idol worship said that in standard one the student is initially taught to worship God by concentrating with the help of an idol but later on when he graduates he no longer requires the idol to concentrate while worshipping the God.
A very important fact to be noted is that only if the fundamentals of any particular subject is strong, then only will he be able to excel in future for e.g. A teacher of mathematics in standard one teaches the students that 2 + 2 = 4 irrespective whether the student passes school or does graduation or does a Ph. D. in mathematics, the basics of 2 + 2 = 4 will yet remain the same, it will not change to 5 or 6. In higher standards the student, besides addition may learn about Algebra, Trigonometry, Logarithm, etc. but the fundamental of addition will yet remain the same. If the teacher in standard one itself teaches the fundamentals wrong, how can you expect the student to excel in future?
It is the fundamental principal of the Vedas regarding the concept of God that He has got no image, so how can the Scholars even after knowing this fact keep silent at the wrong practice being done by people.
Will you tell your son who is in standard one that 2 plus 2 is not equal to 4 but 5 or 6 and only confirm the truth after he passes school? Never. In fact if he makes a mistake you will correct him and say it is 4 and not wait till he graduates; and if you don’t correct him initially you will ruin his future.
WATER IS CALLED BY DIFFERENT NAMES IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES – GOD IS CALLED BY DIFFERENT NAMES AS ALLAH, RAM OR JESUS
Water is called by different names in different languages: in English as water, in Hindi as paani, in Tamil as tanni. Similarly if God is called either Allah, Ram or Jesus, is it not one and the same?
To Allah belongs the Most Beautiful Names
The Glorious Qur’an says in Surah Isra chapter 17 verse 110
"Say: ‘Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names.‘"
You can call Allah by any name, but it should be a beautiful name,should not conjure up a mental picture, and should have qualities that only Allah possesses.
Water can be called by differnt names in different languages but something else besides water cannot be called water in another language.
You can call water by various names in different languages, like water in English, paani in Hindi, tanni in Tamil, mai in Arabic, apah in Sanskrit, jal in Shudh Hindi, jal or paani in Gujrati, pandi in Marathi, neer in Kannad, neeru in Telugu, vellam in Malayalam, etc. If a person tells me that his friend has advised that everyday early in the morning he should have one glass of paani, but he is unable to drink it because when he drinks it, he feels like vomiting. On enquiry he says that the paani stinks and it is yellowish in colour. Later I realise that what he is referring to as paani is not water but urine. Thus you can call water by different names having the same meaning but you cannot call other things as water or paani.
People may think that the example is not realistic and I agree with them because even an ignorant person knows the difference between water and urine. He will have to be a fool to call urine ‘water’. Similarly when any person who knows the correct concept of God, sees people worshipping false gods, he naturally wonders how a person cannot differentiate between a true God and false gods.
Purity of Gold is not verified by calling it by different names in different languages but rubbing it against a Touchstone.
In the same way, gold can be called sona in Hindi, gold in English, dhahaba in Arabic. Inspite of knowing all these different names for gold, if a person wants to sell you his gold jewellery and says this is 24 carat pure sona, you will not blindly believe, without verifying it with a goldsmith. The goldsmith confirms whether it is gold or not with the help of a touchstone. The yellow glittering jewellery may not be gold, because all that glitters is not gold.
Surah Ikhlas is the Touchstone of Theology.
Similarly, any person or candidate who is called God cannot be accepted as the true God without verifying him with the touchstone. The touchstone of theology, that is study of God, is Surah Ikhlas chapter 112 of the Holy Qur’an which says:
"Say, ‘He is Allah, The One and Only; Allah, The Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not Nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him.’’’
Any candidate who passes the Acid test can be called God.
Any candidate who claims to be God and fits in this four line definition, passes the Acid test, is entitled to be called God and worshipped as God.
Suppose a lunatic says that Muhammad (pbuh) is God, (God forbid). Let’s put him to the test of Surah Ikhlas.
"Kul hu allah hu ahad" – Say He is Allah, The One and Only;
Is Muhammad (pbuh) one and only? No! he was not the only messenger. There were many other messengers.
"Allah hus Samad" – Allah, The Eternal, Absolute;
We know that Muhammad (pbuh) had to undergo many hardships. Though he was the mightiest messenger of God, he died at the age of 63 and was buried in Madeenah.
"Lam ya lid wa lam yulad" – He begetteth not Nor is He begotten;
We know that he was born in Makkah and his parents were Abdullah and Aaminah. He even had several children e.g. Fatimah, Ibrahim (may Allah be pleased with them), etc.
"Wa lam ya kullahu kufuwan ahad" – And there is none like unto Him.
Though all the Muslims love and revere the Prophet (pbuh) and are supposed to follow each and every of his commandments, yet you will not find a single Muslim in the whole world, who in his senses will ever say that Muhammad (pbuh) is God. The Islamic Creed is, "La illaha illallah Muhammadur Rasoolullah", which means that there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad (pbuh) is the messenger of Allah. This is repeated five times a day during the call for prayer, so that the Muslims are reminded daily that although they respect and obey him, he is only a Messenger and servant of God, and not God Himself.
Verify the Gods you worship.
Now that we have explained to you how to use the touchstone of theology it is the duty of everyone to verify with this touchstone, whether the gods that they worship are true or false.
HINDUISM IS NOT THE OLDEST AND BEST RELIGION
Hinduism is the oldest of all the religions and thus the, most pure, authentic and best of all the religions of the world.
Islam is the oldest religion
Hinduism is not the oldest of all the religions. It is Islam which is the first and the oldest of all religions. People have a misconception that Islam is 1400 years old and that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the founder of this religion. Islam existed since time immemorial, ever since man first set foot on this earth. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was not the founder of Islam. He was the last and final Messenger of Almighty God.
The oldest religion need not be the purest and the most authentic religion
A religion cannot be claimed to be most pure and authentic, only on the criterion that it is the oldest. It is similar to a person saying that the water he has kept in an open glass, in his house, outside the refrigerator, for three months is purer than the water which has just been collected in a clean glass, immediately after it has been purified.
The latest religion need not be the purest and the most authentic religion
On the other hand a religion cannot be claimed to be the purest or authentic, only on the criterion that the religion is new or the latest. A bottle of distilled water which is sealed, packed and kept in the refrigerator for three months is much purer than a bottle of water freshly collected from the sea.
For religion to be pure and authentic, it should not have interpolations, changes and revisions in its scriptures revealed from God
For any religion to be pure and authentic, its scriptures should not contain any interpolation, addition, deletion or revision. Moreover the religion’s source of inspiration and direction should be Almighty God. The Qur’an is the only religious scripture on the face of the earth which has been maintained it its original form. All the other religious scriptures, of all the other religions have interpolations, additions, deletions or revisions. The Qur’an has been in the memory of a multitude of people, intact in its original form ever since its revelation, and now there are hundreds of thousands of people who have preserved it in their memory. Moreover, if you compare the copies made by Caliph Uthman from the original Qur’an which is yet present in the museum in Tashkent and in Koptaki museum in Turkey, they are the same as the ones we possess today.
Allah (swt) promises in the Qur’an, in Surah Al Hijr, chapter 15 verse 9
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption)."
The oldest religion need not be best religion
A religion cannot be claimed to be the best religion only on the criterion that it is the oldest. It is similar to a person saying, that my 19th century car is better than a Toyota car manufactured in 1998, because it is older. He would be considered to be a fool to say that his 19th century car which required a rod to be turned in circles to start it, is better than a key-start 1998 Toyota car, just because it is older.
The latest religion need not be the best religion
On the other hand a religion cannot be called as the best religion only on the criterion that the religion is new or that it came later. It is similar to a person who says that my 800 cc Suzuki car manufactured in 1999 is better than a 5000 cc Mercedes 500 SEL manufactured in 1997. To judge which car is better, a person should compare the specifications of the car e.g. the power of the car, safety measures, the capacity of the cylinders, the pickup, the speed, the comfort, etc. 5000 cc Mercedes, 500 SEL car manufactured in 1997, is far superior and better than a 800 cc Suzuki (Maruti Suzuki 800) manufactured in 1999.
A religion is best, if it has the solutions to the problems of mankind
For a religion to be considered the best, it should have the solution to all the problems of mankind. It should be the religion of truth, and should be applicable to all ages. Islam is the only religion which has the solution to all the problems of mankind. e.g. the problem of alcoholism, surplus women, rape and molestation, robbery, racism, casteism, etc.
Islam is the religion of truth, and its laws and solutions are applicable to all the ages. The Qur’an is the only religious book on the face of the earth, which has maintained its purity and authenticity proving itself to be the word of God in all the ages. i.e. previously, when it was the age of miracles, literature and poetry and in present times when it is the age of science and technology. Moreover, Islam is not a man-made religion, but a religion revealed and inspired by Almighty God. It is the only religion acceptable in His Sight.
BURYING BETTER THAN CREMATING DEAD BODies
Why do Muslims bury dead bodies instead of cremating them, i.e. burning them?
Components of human body present in the soil
Elements that are present in the human body are present in lesser or greater quantity in the soil. Hence it is more scientific to bury a dead body, as it easily gets decomposed and mixed in the soil.
Cremating (burning) the dead body leads to pollution of the atmosphere which is detrimental to health and harmful for the environment. There is no such pollution caused by burying a dead body.
Surrounding land becomes fertile
To cremate a dead body several trees have to be chopped, which reduces the greenery and harms the environment and the ecology. When dead bodies are buried, besides the trees being saved, the surrounding land becomes fertile and it improves the environment.
It is expensive to cremate a dead body when tons of wood have to be burned. Annually there is a loss of crores of rupees, only because dead bodies are cremated in India. Burying dead bodies is very cheap. It hardly costs any money.
Same land can be utilised for burying another body
The wood used for cremating a dead body cannot be reutilised for cremating another dead body since it gets converted to ashes. The land used for burying a dead body can be reutilised for burying another body after a few years since the human body gets decomposed and mixed in the soil.
BINDI AND MANGALSUTRA
Why do the Muslim married women not put bindi or tika on the forehead and wear Mangalsutra, like Hindu married women?
Bindi or tika
Bindi is derived from the sanskrit word bindu, which means a ‘dot’. It is usually a red dot made with vermilion powder and is worn by the Hindu women between their eyebrows on their forehead.
Bindi is considered a symbol of ‘Parvati’ and signifies female energy which is believed by Hindus to protect women and their husbands. It is traditionally a symbol of marriage and is worn by the Hindu married women. It is also called as tika.
Bindi has become a fashion
Nowadays, wearing bindi has become a fashion and is even worn by unmarried girls and women. The shape of the bindi is no longer restricted to a dot and is available in various shapes, including oval, star, heart shaped, etc. It is even available in different bright colours like blue, green, yellow, orange, etc. The material of the bindi is no longer restricted to vermilion powder, but is made of coloured felt and other material. It is also available in a variety of designs in combination with coloured glass, glitter, etc.
Mangalsutra means a thread of good-will. It is a necklace worn specially by Hindu married women as a symbol of their marriage. It consists of two strings of black beads with a pendant usually of gold. The black beads are believed to act as a protection against evil. It is believed to protect the women’s marriage and the life of her husband. In southern India, mangalsutra is called tali, which is a small gold ornament string on a cotton cord or a gold chain.
Hindu Married women are never supposed to remove their mangalsutra. It is only cut off when a Hindu lady becomes a widow.
Allah Is the Protector
Allah (swt), our Creator, is the best to protect human beings. We do not require any red dot or black thread to protect us from evil. It is mentioned in the Glorius Qur’an in Surah Anam Chapter 6 verse 14
"Say: Shall I take for my protector any other than Allah, the Maker of the heavens and the earth?"
It is mentioned in several places in the Glorius Qur’an including
Surah Ali Imran Chapter 3 Verse 150 and Surah Alhajj Chapter 22 Verse 78
"Allah is your Protector, and He is the best of helpers."
Wearing a bindi or mangalsutra signifies a lack of faith in Almighty God, our Creator, who is the best to protect.
Against the Islamic Dress Code
Wearing a bindi or mangalsutra is a sign of Hindu women. The Islamic dress code does not permit a Muslim to wear any sign, symbol or mark which is specially significant of a non-Muslim.
In Islam, Both Married and Unmarried women should not be Teased
Once, a Hindu friend of mine, while mentioning the benefits of mangalsutra said that it easily identifies a married women, and thus prevents them from being teased and molested. According to Islam, each and every woman, whether married or unmarried, Muslim or Non-Muslim, should neither be teased nor molested.
TAKING NAME OF EMPEROR AKBAR IN ADHAAN
Why do Muslims take the name of Emperor Akbar while calling people to pray?
Non Muslim misunderstand that Emperor Akbar’s name is taken in Adhaan
Once, when I attended a conference in Kerala, a non-Muslim minister spoke just before my speech. He was highlighting the achievements of the Indian Muslims and their role in the progress of India. He said that amongst the Indian kings, the greatest was Emperor Akbar. No wonder the Muslims take his name five times a day, while calling people to pray. During my speech however, I clarified this misconception.
The ‘Akbar’ word of the Adhaan has nothing to do with Emperor Akbar
The word ‘Akbar’ mentioned in the Adhaan which is given to call people to pray has nothing to do with Emperor Akbar of India.The words in the Adhaan were used centuries before the birth of Emperor Akbar.
‘Akbar’ means ‘Great’
The Arabic word ‘Akbar’ means ‘great’. When we say ‘Allahu Akbar’ in the Adhaan we proclaim that ‘Allah is Great’ or ‘Allah is the Greatest’ and we call people to worship the one and only Allah who is the Greatest.
WHY DON’T MUSLIMS IN INDIA FOLLOW THE ISLAMIC CRIMINAL LAW?
When Muslims in India insist on having a separate Muslim Personal Law for themselves, why don’t they also insist on implementing the Islamic Criminal Law for the Muslims; for example implementing the rule that the robber’s hands should be chopped off if a Muslim robs?
Muslim Personal Law
Personal Law is a law concerning an individual person and the persons closely related to him, e.g. laws relating to marriage, divorce, inheritance, etc. It includes laws which are mutually agreed upon by a group of people. This law does not include any crime or an act that will harm the society directly.
India is Secular And Democratic
In any country, the Personal Law may differ for different groups of people and for different communities. Since India is a secular and democratic country it allows different groups of people to follow their own personal law if they wish.
Islamic Personal Law is the Best
Muslims believe that compared to all the different types of personal laws available in the world, the best and the most result oriented is the Islamic Personal Law. Muslims of India prefer following the Muslim personal law also because of their own belief in Islam.
Criminal law is that law which is associated with a crime or an act which directly affects the society e.g. robbing, raping, murdering, etc.
The Criminal Law should be the same for all people
In any country, the criminal law unlike the Personal Law cannot be different for different groups of people. It has to be same for all people of different groups and different religions e.g. In Islam if a person robs, his hands are chopped off. This punishment is not prescribed in Hinduism. If a Hindu robs a Muslim, what would be the robber’s punishment? The Muslim would want the hands of the robber to be chopped, while the Hindu Law would not agree.
The Muslims in India alone cannot separately follow the Islamic Criminal Law without involving the Non-Muslims
Even if a Muslim agrees, that as far as he commits a crime he should be given the punishment according to Islamic Criminal Law, it would not be practical. In case an allegation is made against a Muslim for robbery and if the witnesses are Non-Muslims, and if each one follows his own Criminal Law, the punishment in Islam for bearing false witness is 80 lashes, whereas in the Indian Crimial Law, a person giving false witness can easily escape. Thus, for a non-Muslim to falsely accuse a Muslim of any crime is very easy, if both follow their own criminal law. However, if both follow the Indian Law where the punishment is lenient for false witnesses and robbers, it will encourage both the robber to rob as well as encourage the witnesses to give false witness for their own benefit.
The Muslims in India would prefer the Islamic Criminal Law to be implemented on all Indians
We Muslims would prefer that in India the Islamic Criminal Law be implemented on all the Indians, since, chopping the hands of a thief will surely reduce the rate of robbery in India. Similarly, 80 lashes for giving false testimony will prevent a person from giving false witness.
Islamic Criminal Law is Most Practical
Islam besides pointing out a crime, it also gives you a solution showing how to prevent the crime e.g. chopping the hands of a robber, death penalty for the rapist. The punishment is so severe that it is a deterrent for the criminal to commit the crime. He will think a hundred times before committing a crime.
Thus if crime has to be reduced or stopped in India the best solution is to implement ‘The Common Islamic Criminal Law’.
ARE RAM AND KRISHNA PROPHETS OF GOD?
If according to Islam, messengers or prophets were sent to each and every nation of the world, then which prophet was sent to India? Can we consider Ram and Krishna to be messengers of God?
Prophets sent to every nation
The Glorious Qur’an mentions in Surah Fatir, chapter 35 verse 24
". . . And there never was a people, without a warner
having lived among them (in the past)."
A similar message is repeated in Surah Rad, chapter 13 verse 7
". . . and to every people a guide."
Stories only of some prophets narrated in the Qur’an
Allah (swt) says in Surah Nisa, chapter 4 verse 164
"Of some messengers We have already told thee the story; of others we have not."
A similar message is repeated in Surah Ghafir chapter 40 verse 78
"We did aforetime send messengers before thee: of them there are some whose story We have related to thee, and some whose story We have not related to thee. . ."
25 Prophets of God are mentioned by name in the Qur’an
By name, only 25 Prophets of God are mentioned in the Qur’an e.g. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammed (pbut)
More than 1,24,000 prophets of God
According to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), there were more than 1,24,000 prophets sent to this world.
All previous prophets sent only for their people
All the prophets that came before Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) were only sent for their own people and were to be followed only for a particular period of time.
Surah Ali Imran, chapter 3 verse 49
"And (appoint him) a messenger to the Children of Israel, . . ."
Muhammad (pbuh), the last messenger of God
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the last and final messenger of Almighty God. It is mentioned in
Surah Ahzab, chapter 33 verse 40
"Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things."
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), sent for whole Humankind
Since Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the last and final messenger, he was not sent only for the Muslims or the Arabs, but he was sent for the whole of humankind.
It is mentioned in
Surah Anbiya, chapter 21 verse 107
"We sent thee not, but as a mercy for all creatures."
A similar message is repeated in
Surah Saba, chapter 34 verse 28
"We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings, and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not."
[Al Qur’an 34:28]
It is mentioned in
Sahih Bukhari, volume 1, Book of Salaah, chapter 56 hadith no. 429
Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: Allah’s Messenger said,
"Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have been sent to all mankind."
Which prophet was sent to India?
Regarding the question of which prophet of God was sent to India, and can we consider Ram or Krishna to be prophets of God, there is no text in the Qur’an or Sahih Hadith mentioning the name of the prophet that was sent to India. Since the names of Ram and Krishna are nowhere to be found in the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, one cannot say for sure whether they were prophets of God or not. Some Muslims, especially certain Muslim politicians who try to appease the Hindus, say Ram Alai-his-salaam, i.e. Ram, may peace be on him. This is totally wrong, since there is no authentic proof from the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith that he was a prophet of God. However, a person may say that perhaps they may have been the prophets of God.
Even if Ram and Krishna were prophets, today we have to follow the last Prophet of God i.e. Muhammad (pbuh)
Even if Ram and Krishna were prophets of God, they were only meant for people of that time and were to be followed only for that particular period of time. Today, all the human beings throughout the world, including India should only follow the last and final prophet and Messenger of God – prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
ARE THE VEDAS A REVELATION OF GOD?
If Allah has sent His books and revelations in every period, then which revelation was sent to India? Can we consider the Vedas and other Hindu scriptures to be the word of God?
Revelation sent in every period
The Glorious Qur’an mentions in Surah Rad, chapter 13 verse 38
"For each period is a book (revealed)."
Four revelations of God mentioned by name in Qur’an
By name, only four revelations of God are mentioned in the Qur’an i.e. Torah, Zaboor, Injeel and the Qur’an
Torah is the revelation which was given to Moses (pbuh)
Zaboor is the revelation which was given to David (pbuh)
Injeel is the revelation which was given to Jesus (pbuh)
and Qur’an is the last and final revelation which was given to the last and final Messenger Muhammad (pbuh).
All the previous revelations sent only for their people
All the revelations that came before Qur’an were only sent for their own people and were to be followed only for a particular time period.
The Qur’an sent for whole humankind
Since the Qur’an is the last and final revelation, it was not sent only for the Muslims or the Arabs but it was sent for the whole of humankind. It is mentioned in:
Surah Ibrahim, chapter 14 verse 1
"Alif Lam Ra. A book which We have revealed unto thee, in order that thou mightest lead mankind out of the depths of darkness into light . . ."
A similar message is repeated in Surah Ibrahim chapter 14 verse 52
"Here is a Message for mankind: let them take warning therefrom, and let them know that He is (no other than) One God: let men of understanding take heed."
Qur’an mentions in Surah Baqarah chapter 2 verse 185
"Ramadan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur’an, as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and judgement (between right and wrong)."
A similar message is repeated in Surah Zumur chapter 39 verse 41
"Verily We have revealed the Book to thee in Truth, for (instructing) mankind."
Which revelation sent to India?
The question that arises is "which revelation of God was sent to India and whether we can consider the Vedas and the other Hindu Scriptures to be the revelations of God?" There is no text in the Qur’an or Sahih Hadith mentioning the name of the revelation that was sent to India. Since the names of the Vedas or other Hindu scriptures are no where to be found in Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, one cannot say for sure that they were the revelations of God. They may be the revelation of God or may not be the revelation of God.
Even if the Veda was the word of God today you have to follow the Qur’an
Even if the Vedas and the other scriptures were the revelations from God, they were only meant for people of that time and were to be followed only for that particular period of time. Today all human beings through out the world including India should only follow the last and final Revelation of God, i.e. the Qur’an. Moreover since all the previous revelations were not meant to be followed for eternity, Almighty God did not preserve them in their original form. There is not a single religious scripture of any of the major religions which claims to be the word of God and has maintained its pure original text and is free from alteration, adulteration and interpolation. Since the Glorious Qur’an is to be followed for eternity, Allah (swt) has taken upon Himself to maintain its original purity and guard it from corruption. Allah says in Glorious Qur’an.
Surah Hijr chapter 15 verse 9
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption)."
IS ALLAH MENTIONED IN OTHER SCRIPTURES
"Allah" is the most appropriate name for God in the Qur’an. Is this name "Allah" mentioned in other religious scriptures besides the Qur’an?
Almost all the major religious scriptures of the world contain the word "Allah" as one of the names of God.
Elohim El, Elah, Alah
In the Bible, God is very often referred to as ‘Elohim’ in the Hebrew language. The ‘im’ in the ending is a plural of honour and God is referred to as ‘El’ or ‘Elah’ in the English Bible with commentary, edited by reverend C. I. Scofield. ‘Elah’ is alternatively spelled as ‘Alah’. The difference in spelling is only of a single ‘L’. Muslims spell Allah as ‘Allah’ while the Reverend has spelled it as Alah and they pronounce it as ‘Elah’. Muslims pronounce it as Allah. Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages therefore we say it should be pronounced as ‘Allah’ and not as ‘Elah’.
When I was in school, I was taught ‘D, O’ is do, ‘T, O’ is to. What is ‘G, O’ It is ‘go’ and not ‘gu’. ‘N, U, T’ is nut, ‘C, U, T’ cut; ‘B, U, T’ is but, what is ‘P, U, T’? Not ‘pat’ but it is ‘put’. If you ask "Why?" The answer is "It is their language". If I have to pass I have to say ‘P, U, T’ is ‘put’ and not ‘pat’. Similarly the right pronunciation for A, L, L, A, H, is Allah.
Jesus (pbuh) cried out Allah Allah when he was put on the cross
It is mentioned in the New Testament in the Gospel of Mathew, chapter 27 verse 46 as well as Gospel of Mark, chapter 15 verse 34 when Jesus (pbuh) was put on the cross.
Jesus cried with a loud voice saying "E’-Li, E’-Li la’-ma sa-bach’-tha-ni?" that is to say, ‘My God, My God why hast Thou Forsaken Me?’ Does this sound like Jehovah! Jehovah! why has thou forsaken me? Does it sound like Abba Abba? The answer is ‘No’. Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages and if you translate "E’-Li, E’-Li la’-ma sa-bach’-tha-ni" into Arabic it is ‘Allah Allah lama tarak tani’ does it sound similar?
This statement of Jesus (pbuh), "E’-Li, E’-Li la’-ma sa-bach’-tha-ni" is preserved in its original Hebrew in each and every of its translation which is available in more than 2000 different languages of the world and in each and every of them, "Allah" is present.
"Allah" in Sikhism
One of the names by which Gurunanak Sahib referred to God is "Allah".
"Allah" in Rigveda Book 2 Hymn I verse II
Even in the Rigveda which is the most sacred scripture of the Hindus, one of the attributes given to God Almighty in Book no 2 Hymn no I verse II, is ‘Ila’ which if pronounced properly is the same as Allah.
Amongst the various Upanishads one of the Upanishad is named as ‘Allo’ Upanishad in which God is referred to as "Allah" several times.
|01/19/02 at 05:31:08|
Thank you Anik [/quote]
please, call me Abdullah :)
So tell me. Is Hinduism older than Greek mythology?
Yes, by far in fact....
In fact, they say hinduism is the source of Greek Mythology, the war god Indra in hinduism being influence for the "king of gods" Zeus in the Greek (or Jupiter in Roman I believe). That is why some people call hindusim the oldest religion in the world.
And about this Mohammad SAW in the hindu scriptures stuff, I would be careful on how we believe a theory and turn it into truth or fact without Allah SWT's consent... There are holes to even suggesting that the Hindu scriptures forsees Muhammad SAW, one partially being that it may be a reason to legitimize the rest of the religion. aslaamu alaikum. abdullah,.
|01/20/02 at 07:59:41|
Thanks for your answers;) I've been looking to find someone like you for ages since you're probably the best person to ask these questions to without actually seriously offending the questioned :)
Theres a few more things about hinduism I'd like to know about...
Whats the score in Hinduism with God coming to earth in human form? ie. Rama, krishna, Hanuman. Do hindus actually believe these were incarnations of God roaming the earth? How many were there, who were they (names) and what was their mission?
Is it true that many of these gods commited sexual crimes? ie. Krishna seducing the gopis, Brahma and Shiva's attempted rape on someone called Anasuya and a few othe cases which i can't remember but you may have heard of.
Funnily enough i read somewhere that hindus believe in a Pig god called lord varaha, astagfirullah, who also roamed the earth in human form. He's even got his own website ;-D :)
I had an encounter once with a few hindu fanatics spreading lies about islam on a discussion forum, yet when I mentioned this pig god of theirs they all dissappeared ;-D
Also, what is the truth regarding the 'Shiva Linga'? Is it worshipped or just a respected symbol of pro-creation (as hindus like to say) Even then whats the significance of even having a model of one in shiva temples, its not the sort of thing you'd want kids to look at.
I've noticed there a many aspects of Hinduism which hindus are very reluctant or too ashamed to talk about as the stuff mentioned above.
Ultimately the question that begs an answer is why are people so stupid or naieve to believe in such stuff?
|01/21/02 at 03:12:07|
Here we go, brother Explorer:
Whats the score in Hinduism with God coming to earth in human form? ie. Rama, krishna, Hanuman.[/quote]
Ten incarnations of Vishnu (the "Sustainer" deity).
An God is human form is called an AVATAR.
Usually, Vishnu has the avatars. Hanuman is not an avatar, but the son of the Wind, don't ask me why he's a monkey :p
Sometimes even animal or half-human form.
They are in a chain starting with Matsya, a fish-human and follow along like the evolutional chain,
to a boar, half human-half ape (which is remarkable how they picked up on that theory), narasimha (a lion-man), until Ram (he was a power-LESS avatar), Krishna (sometimes called the Supreme Godhead) and Buddha, (yes, buddha, but a different one), and to come, Kalki...
Some say the number is 11 since Krishna also came with his brother Balram as 2 incarnations in the same time period and both did not know each other was a "god" but treated each other that way.
People have likened the Kalki avatar (a combo if a man on a horse) to Isa AS coming down again or Prophet SAW.
Some of these avatars know they are avatars and are powerful, others are straight humans, more prophet than avatar.
Avatars come to cleanse the world at certain time periods for two purposes: 1) to liberate 2) to inspire
Avatars ARE NOT mentione din the Vedas but are a development later in hindu scriptures.
[quote] Do hindus actually believe these were incarnations of God roaming the earth? How many were there, who were they (names) and what was their mission?[/quote]
Yes, they believe they roamed the earth.
Others say they were symbolic (very few though)
Others say they were great kings and men who made their mark on society and became worshipped.
The hindu-Islam article posted above suggest Ram and Krishna may have been prophets of Allah SWT.
Some sources say there were no such thing as avatars, only rishis (great sages), others say there were 11 (as aforementioned) and others say innumerable, like angels almost.
Then again, its a contradiction since the Gita is a parable, how does a ficticious character (Krishna) suddenlt become real? don't ask, this is the messed up mystery of the religion. It is so complex and confusing it begins to seem profound to a common observer.
The 10 (or 11) avatars:
1. Matsya (the fish)
2. Kurma (the amphibian)
3. Varaha (a boar-man i believe who came down to kill a demon who had "stolen the world" or something. Then he fought the demon in the sea and killed it, ll while the demon held the globe in his hands (don't ask)
4. Nrisimha - the half lion who also came to kill a demon (rakshasa)
5. Vamana- half-man half-ape, Cro-magnon neandertal type of guy i believe
6. Parashurama - a human, nothign special
7. Ram - son of Kunti, sent to rid the world of the demon Ravana. He was a prince of the Ramayana epic and was a normal man with a pious heart. Some liken him to Aryan invaders (light skin) fighting the demon Ravana of Sri Lanka (obviously a dark skinned king of Dravidian decent- an Indian race) and because of war success, liken him to a god's incarnation
8. Krishna - about a few hundred years after, son of Yashoda. Born to solve problems in the epic the Mahabharata. So much can be said about him... he is called the Supreme Godhead and was extremely powerful. He is the recitor of the poem Bhagavad Gita (Song Celestial). He was cousin to the Pandava brothers.
8. b) Balram.... the older step brother of Krishna who was also an avatar, but never knew it and always saw divinity in Krishna but never knew for sure. totally a normal guy.
9. Buddha (meaning Enlightened One)... not the same Buddha, but he looks the same... sort of unclear as to who he is... maybe he was tacked on to the list, but came much after in the Axis Age (6th cent. BC)
10. Kalki - a horse and rider... will come in the end of the world and so on.
Is it true that many of these gods commited sexual crimes? ie. Krishna seducing the gopis, Brahma and Shiva's attempted rape on someone called Anasuya and a few othe cases which i can't remember but you may have heard of.[/quote]
Yes, Krishna basically slept around with all the milkmaids (gopis) and took many girlfriends... he is called the romantic seducer and can have a women like *that*. He also had a wife, Radha. He was VERY promiscuous and often stole the bathing gopi's clothes and watched them from a tree.
Sometimes, gods created humans so beautiful they would sleep with them and so on.
Basically, sex is something so totally different in ancient hinduism.. ITs an ART... this is the kama sutra religion don't forget.. its supposed to be a expression of fertility and humanity... Even the hindu idol, the Shiv Ling, a black stone, is a phallic symbol (a guy's you-know what) and they pour milk over it and pray to Shiva.
Sex is divine there.
Some temples have statues of big breasted , multi armed women wrapped around men in sex astag'ferlah... its primal to say the least. Temples had prostitutes as well and dancers devoted to the temples who doubled up as mistresses to kings.
[quote]Funnily enough i read somewhere that hindus believe in a Pig god called lord varaha, astagfirullah, who also roamed the earth in human form. He's even got his own website ;-D :)[/quote]
Yes, the boar-man. Read above.
[quote]I had an encounter once with a few hindu fanatics spreading lies about islam on a discussion forum, yet when I mentioned this pig god of theirs they all dissappeared ;-D [/quote]
hindus rarely stand accountable for their ideals and beleifs. often, they go hinduism grocery shopping, see what suits the day and age, se what doesn't.
[quote]Also, what is the truth regarding the 'Shiva Linga'? Is it worshipped or just a respected symbol of pro-creation (as hindus like to say) Even then whats the significance of even having a model of one in shiva temples, its not the sort of thing you'd want kids to look at. [/quote]
Read above lol
Some ... many hindus are spreading the lie at gatherings now that the shiv ling is inside the ka'baa astag'ferlah... NOW...
They seriosuly believe this...
[quote]I've noticed there a many aspects of Hinduism which hindus are very reluctant or too ashamed to talk about as the stuff mentioned above.[/quote]
Ask about semen coming out of a god's "lingam" (as the Kama sutra refers to that part with that name) and turning into a river where people bathe in for purity.
[quote]Ultimately the question that begs an answer is why are people so stupid or naieve to believe in such stuff?
There's a lot of history and tradition that keeps these people there. it is an escape for them.
Look at most hindu converts... they are all misdirected, confused, washed up and/or empty and searching...
don;t get me wrong.. hindusim has some really cool points to it.. really.
Its a real brainy religion at times, and they dumb it down to the MAX for some people.
It does have some truths which i can get into later, but it ain't ISlam, so it just don't cut it, right? :). asalaamu alaikum. abdullah,.
Ask more if needs be, anyone.
|01/23/02 at 08:59:56|
hehe, i did the presentation!!! i only did festivals. At the end when they get to ask questions everyone asked abt islam instaed of hinduism???:)
oh i'd like to thanx u all again for the information u gave me, jazak'allah:)
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