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|10/08/03 at 13:37:43|
|> >[The Independent - 30 Sept 2003]|
> >Execute me, pleads Muslim who killed daughter after she took western
> >boyfriend boyfriend.
> >A STRICT Muslim who slit his daughter's throat because he believed she had
> >become too Westernised pleaded with a judge yesterday to sentence him to
> >When Abdalla Yones learned that his 16-year-old child Heshu had begun
> >a Christian teenager he stabbed her 11 times. Breaking down the door of the
> >bathroom where she had barricaded herself in, he slit her throat leaving
> >to bleed to death in the bath.
> >Yesterday, as the 48-year-old Kurd was sentenced to life after becoming the
> >first person in Britain to admit an "honour killing", the policeman at the
> >head of the investigation, Commander Andy Baker, warned anyone who carried
> >out a similar murder - whatever religion they are - would suffer the
> >severest penalties.
> >With an estimated 12 such deaths in Britain last year, Scotland Yard vowed
> >to seek out those who collude in covering up for the killers. Police are
> >considering such prosecutions in Heshu's case. "We will not tolerate it,
> >neither should any community," Mr Baker said.
> >Revealing pictures of the "bright, vibrant" teenager who was killed, Mr
> >Baker added: "The haunting video images of Heshu Yones put a face to a
> >that has, for too long, been shrouded and obscured by fear of cultural
> >Yesterday Sawsan Salim, co-ordinator of the Kurdistan Refugees Women's
> >Organisation, insisted the community condemned such killings, adding: "No
> >excuse should be given for such a brutal tragedy."
> >Yones, the Old Bailey heard, had fled the brutality of Saddam Hussein's
> >regime 10 years ago, bringing his young family to Britain. While they
> >adapted easily to life in Europe he had felt like a "fish out of water".
> >Heshu, the "jewel" in her father's crown, had enraged him with her
> >increasingly Western ways and endured "very significant physical abuse"
> >Having fallen for Samnizam Elkhouri, a Lebanese 18-year-old, she decided to
> >run away with him. But her secret was revealed when Yones received a
> >written in Kurdish, describing his daughter as a slut. On 12 October last
> >year, he "hacked his daughter to death", before cutting his own throat and
> >jumping from a third floor balcony of their home in Acton, west London.
> >Police officers found him injured but alive and went into the flat to
> >discover Heshu's body. A bent and broken kitchen knife still protruding
> >her neck bore testament to the savagery of the attack.
> >His barrister Icah Peart QC told Judge Neil Denison yesterday: "He has
> >me to ask you to pass a sentence of execution. I have made it clear that
> >your Lordship does not have that power."
> >Describing the case as a "tragic story arising out of irreconcilable
> >cultural differences", the judge said: "It is plain you strongly and
> >genuinely disapproved of the lifestyle in this country of your daughter and
> >the fact that it was affecting her schoolwork. But, having said that, the
> >killing and the manner of it was, as you have recognised, an appalling act.
> >That is why immediately after and then again last month, you tried to take
> >your own life. I accept it is still your intention.
> >"But there is only one sentence that the law allows me to pass where the
> >crime is murder and that is the sentence I do pass - life."
> >A "bubbly, cheeky, fun-loving" girl, popular with school friends, Heshu had
> >taken to asking friends to lie for her so she could enjoy herself while
> >evading her father's strict gaze, explained John McGuinness QC for the
> >She lived a double life, secretly putting on make-up only after she left
> >home. Having started a relationship with a fellow pupil at William Morris
> >Academy in Fulham, she began to play truant on a regular basis to spend
> >with him.
> >"There was tension at home particularly with her father. He was not happy
> >with her lifestyle and wanted her to live within the Muslim religion and
> >cultural traditions," explained Mr McGuinness.
> >During a family holiday to Kurdistan last year, Heshu became worried her
> >father might try and arrange a marriage for her - and she felt trapped.
> >"It was while there that the defendant might have discovered that his
> >daughter had a boyfriend and that she was not a virgin," explained Mr
> >McGuinness. Yones pulled a gun on his daughter and threatened to kill her.
> >Returning to Britain, Heshu started to make plans to run away and wrote her
> >father: "Bye Dad, sorry I was so much trouble. Me and you will probably
> >never understand each other, but I'm sorry I wasn't what you wanted, but
> >there's some things you can't change.
> >She ended the letter by saying: "Hey, for an older man you have a good
> >strong punch and kick. I hope you enjoyed testing your strength on me, it
> >was fun being on the receiving end. Well done."
> >When Yones received the letter, he brooded over the contents and decided to
> >talk to her about it on the day of the murder. A row broke out which
> >escalated into the attack.
> >Yones, who spent months in hospital afterwards, but made a full recovery,
> >first claimed Heshu had been killed by an al-Qa'ida gang before admitting
> >the killing last week.
> >His defence barrister explained that Yones had endured the brutality of
> >Saddam Hussein's and become involved in the struggle for independence, just
> >like his father before him. Eventually, he fled with his wife, daughter and
> >two sons to the UK where he was granted indefinite leave to remain.
> >Outside the court, Mr Baker, added: "Let this conviction be a message, loud
> >and clear, to those who misrepresent their own communities and condone or
> >stay silent over the treatment of women in their midst.
> >"`Honour killing' is murder and the police and the justice system will come
> >down on you like a ton of bricks if you are found to be guilty of, or an
> >accomplice to, such so-called `crimes of honour'."
> >THE `HONOUR KILLINGS'
> >Rukhsana Naz, 19, was strangled by her brother Shazad as her mother held
> >legs down. The 19-year-old from Derby had become pregnant by her
> >But she was already married to another man, in Pakistan, and had two
> >children by him. In May, 1999, her mother and brother were sentenced to
> >at Nottingham Crown Court.
> >In February last year, Faqir Mohammed was jailed for life for stabbing his
> >daughter, Shahida, 24, to death. He had returned to their Manchester home
> >and found her fully clothed on her bed with a boyfriend. He had tried to
> >kill him but Shahida stood in his way. Mohammed said it was his right to
> >kill a man who was in his daughter's bedroom.
> >Surjit Kaur Athwal, 26, of Hayes, Middlesex, who had two children,
> >disappeared on a trip to India in 1998 as she began divorce proceedings.
> >family believes she was the victim of an honour killing, a theory supported
> >by police. Her husband was arrested but denied any involvement. Three other
> >relatives were held, then eleased without charge.
> >In January this year, Sahda Bibi, 21, was stabbed to death on the day of
> >wedding to a secret sweetheart in Birmingham, after refusing to enter an
> >arranged marriage with another man. West Midlands Police have charged a
> >25-year-old man with her murder and are still hunting Ms Bibi's cousin,
> >believed to have fled to Pakistan.
> >The Independent - London
|Re: 'Honour Killings'|
|10/08/03 at 18:54:22|
What is wrong with these people??!!!!
Subhana Allah we have become pure savages...animals....worst even :'(
how can someone slit his own daughter's throat? Was she screaming? Was she pleading for her life? was she struggling? Does he hear her shrieks in the middle of the night? does he see her innocent eyes pleading with him?
Is it her fault that he didn't provide her with a good understanding of Islam, one that would provide her with the intellectual and spiritual strength to make her own decisions in a morally acceptable way?
who can we blame for this utter moral decay and stagnation of the minds and hearts of muslims...this stench that leads us to kill our own children? wives? sisters?where are our hearts? Where is the compassion of the Rasul [saw]? Where is the Mercy that dictates we should love for each other what we love for ourselves?
Where's just the basic common sense?!!!!!!!
i am gonna get sick.
|Re: 'Honour Killings'|
|10/23/03 at 13:24:44|
A Muslim was jailed for life for slitting his daughter’s throat in an “honour killing”
after she embraced western culture and began dating a Christian. This is a tragic story of
irreconciable cultural differences between a father who had a traditional Muslim
upbringing, values and background and a daughter who was a thoroughly westernized woman. Father
with strict Muslim beliefs murdered “bright, vibrant” teenager who planned to runaway with
A man with strict Muslim beliefs would certainly not kill his daughter. Such tragedies
have nothing to do with faith or race. Her father could not control his emotions and his
un-Islamic action is also liable for punishment under Islamic law. The tragedy could have
been avoided if the poor girl was educated in a Muslim school by Muslim teachers. She is
a product of de-education by state school. According to British law, the children should
be educated according to the needs and demands of the parents but his daughter was
educated to be a westernized woman, instead of a Muslim.
This tragedy is an eye opener for all those Muslim parents who send their children to
state schools where they are exposed to teachers who have no respect for Islamic faith and
Muslim community. There is a negative co-relation between home and school. The prime aim
of schooling is to anglicize all children irrespective of their backgrounds. They are
victim of institutional racism and Islamophobia. Already there are more than 6000 Muslim
teenager girls in the custody of the social services, a product of the mis-education and
de-education by state schools. Muslim youth are involved in drugs, prostitution, abandoning
families, abortion and high rate of divorce. Muslim children need Muslim schools with
Muslim teachers for proper growth during their developmental periods.
The silent majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim
schools but there are not enough schools to go by. The only alternative left is either British
Government should introduce voucher system for parents to choose the school of their
choice or designate all those state schools as Muslim community schools where Muslim pupils
are in majority. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslims are in majority. Such
schools may be handed over to Muslim educational Trusts or charities for their management.
They are in a better position to educate Muslim children in accordance with their needs
and demands. This demand is in accordance with the law of the land because there are state
schools already managed by private companies.
|Re: 'Honour Killings'|
|10/25/03 at 03:41:33|
[quote]who can we blame for this utter moral decay and stagnation of the minds and hearts of muslims...this stench that leads us to kill our own children? wives? sisters?where are our hearts? Where is the compassion of the Rasul ? Where is the Mercy that dictates we should love for each other what we love for ourselves?
Where's just the basic common sense?!!!!!!![/quote]
Well sister Nur your questions are very valid but I think we should ask those questions to ourselves instead of asking others. Because tomorrow we might face such a problem in our house and we might be the headlines of newspapers.
I am not surpised by the statistics of such incidents in fact I think they are much below than the expected. Particularly when you see majority of parents too busy in making money with both hands. And usually both husband and wife claim to do that for sake of their family. (Only God knows what is the ACTUAL reason behind that) When most of the time children spend in day care centres and boarding houses. When parents think by providing their children good living, tutors for religious and secular education and other materialistic things they have full filled responsibility. I think it's a universal problem and there is no distinction between so called religious and non religious people. I personally know one very well known religious scholar who had the same problem with his kids.
I think the most important and precious thing what parents can give to their children is their time, love, affection and good brought up if that's there then neigther the society nor the school what those kids go to will derail them. But if first mentioned things is not there then I don't think any other cosmetic actions can change the situation.
|Re: 'Honour Killings'|
|10/26/03 at 08:07:57|
Just thinking out aloud:
Have there been any "Honour killings" of sons? Further, which "honor/honour" is being defended? (religious or ego?).
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