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|06/03/04 at 15:22:03|
| [slm].Well, i m starting this topic to know more about stars and all that stuff.|
Hmm, i do read about my star(scorpio) daily but i don't keep the discription in my mind 4 a long time,i dun believe in them completly.But really sometimes it has happened that i was forced to beleive in them, the discription somtimes indirectly mentioned things that happened to me.I got very surprised, ::)
Wat do u people know and think abt. zodiac signs and all that.I mean their place in Islam? (__________________________________________________________) ;)
|06/03/04 at 15:53:52|
|..i think its forbidden in islam .i read in an article that even reading is haraam i guess ..something like that that article had been misplaced by ..ofcourse careless me ....i know when u c that stars part in the news paper or youngtimes its soo tempting to read it but one should avoid reading it also coz its wrong to even read it mayb others on board can give u some authentic proofs on this matter|
|06/03/04 at 16:48:18|
This is from Bilal Phillips renowed book on Tawheed. It explains things very clearly. Forgive me, my brother, if this sounds harsh, but never compromise on tawheed.
When one thinks of "comparative religions", one tends to limit the "religions" to that of Judaism and Christianity. There are however, many people who entertain the belief that their lives are influenced by the heavenly bodies, that is, the stars, the sun, the moon, the planets, etc. They believe that these heavenly bodies exercise degrees of power over everyday events, and that Future events can be foretold and thereby can be avoided or taken advantage of as the case may be, and is known as "Tanjiim" or "Astrology".
This form of belief was upheld by the Sabians, to whom Prophet Ibrahim (a.s) was sent. The Sabians made the sun, the moon and the stars into gods and worshipped them.
This form of Astrology is Kufur (disbelief). It attributes power to other than Allah (s.w.t), and by doing so it nullifies Tawheed-ul Asmaa' Was-Sifaat (the Unity of Allah's Names and Attributes). By the assertion of this belief, the planets, stars and galaxies are given some of Allah's Unique Qualities, such as Qadar (destiny).
Those who practice this form of astrology are in Kufur, because they claim knowledge of the future which is known only to Allah (s.w.t):
"And with Him are the Keys of the Ghaib (all that is hidden, the Unseen), None Knows but He" [6: 59].
"Say: 'None in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib except Allah'..." [27: 65].
Astrology is classified as Haram (forbidden) as the Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) stated:
"Whoever acquires knowledge of any branch of astrology, has acquired knowledge of magic. The more he increases in that knowledge, the more he increases in sin." [Reported by Abu Hurairah and collected by Abu Dawud and Ahmad] Not only is the practice of astrology Haram, but so too is visiting an astrologist and listening to his predictions; buying books on astrology or reading one's horoscope are also Haram (the horoscope section in "The Daily Telegraph" now occupies half a page!)
Since astrology is mainly used for predicting the future, those who practice it are considered to be fortunetellers. Anyone who seeks his horoscope comes under the ruling contained in the Prophet's statement:
"The Salah (prayer) of whoever approaches a fortuneteller and asks him about anything will not be accepted for forty days and nights." [Reported by Hafsah and collected by Muslim]
If someone approaches and asks the astrologist, and he is doubtful about the truth or falsehood of the astrologist's information, then he has committed a form of Shirk, because he has doubted whether or not others have knowledge of the Ghaib and the future besides Allah (s.w.t).
If someone believes in the horoscope's predictions, whether spoken or written by an astrologist, then he is committing Kufur. Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) said:
"Whoever approaches an oracle or fortuneteller and believes in what he says, has disbelieved in what was revealed to Muhammad." [Reported by Abu Hurairah and collected by Ahmad and Abu Dawud]
Muslims are advised to stay away from these charlatans. Any ring or chain or such like, which carries a sign or signs of the zodiac on them should not be worn, even if the wearer does not believe in them. They are all part of a man-made system which is bent on promoting Kufur. Do not ask a fellow Muslim what his "star-sign" is or even try to guess it.
|06/03/04 at 18:24:18|
yes, horoscope may not seem like a big deal but if you actually look at its roots...you'd be surprised.
Basically, this is what horoscope is: it is claiming that we humans can predict future by looking at stars etc, which is totally shirk because Allah(swt) is the only one who knows our fate and destiny.
|06/04/04 at 09:07:03|
|Yow! thanx all 4 replying.I have the same knowledge about them.The knowledge of astology is total magic.Who has the right 2 predict knowledge.Whatever comes let it come by Allah.That will b gud 4 all of us.! ;-)|
|06/12/04 at 12:18:18|
Peace and e-Greetings be upon you.
I just keep having to repeat myself, funny how this permeates my life...
Atrology WORKS because of something you may not have considered:
SOME people born on YOUR exact birthday DO rely completely
on whatever the horoscope says about their birthday, sign, etc.
All the astrology books, fortune tellers, writers of the subject etc
refer to one another, hence they feed off of and therefore RE-INFORCE
a specific number of attributes and qualities and ideas associated
with people born on a certain date or within a period.
Culture, that is Society at large, has just enough of these people
who take those consensus-made predictions seriously, and just enough
of a larger group of people who half-take it seriously, meaning
they/we refer to astrology to make infrequent decisions about people
they are involved or wish to be involved with.
What that does is create a societal sub-conscious cause and effect
that actually confirms that YES, because you were born on a specific
date, these are your habits, turn ons, turn offs, etc, and here is
how you will deal with people born on other dates.
Then suddenly when you look around you, you notice that people born
on YOUR birthday do in fact ACT kinda like you when it comes to
those astrology book descriptions of your birthdate/sign details.
What I am saying is NURTURE over nature is involved here.
I am too lazy right now to type any more, if you all get what
is meant here, then there ya go.
if not, post a question about my comment and I'll elaborate.
last thing, how do you break out of this bad habit?
Refer to your Hijri Birthday. Mine is 1/17/1390. I look pretty good for 604 year old! ;-)
CHANGE your sign. If you're an aries, I now dub you a Scorpio.
You may find that 'religiously' following a sign other than your own,
somehow equally make sense for you as your 'original' sign.
Since BOTH signs now make complete sense in your daily life,
that fact alone should shatter your 'faith' in astrology.
And if that don't work, grow some dreads and Yell RASTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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