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|bro humble Muslim & others|
|06/20/04 at 07:06:04|
|[slm] I read a post in which you were so upset at the Ummah's condition, and the US part in this repression, that you were thinking of emigrating to Canada or some such place. Let me give you my two cents based on my observaion, experience and analysis.|
No matter where one goes, trials of one sort or the other accompany one. In fact, one's progeny may be subjected to even more difficult trials.
When Pakistan was created, many Muslims migrated to Pakistan, first to escape immediate danger, and they hoped to come to a land where Islam would be practiced. What they came to was a feudal state where the local wadera or Chaudhry or pir is held in awe, and acts as god. This culture had been adopted by the British who had been advised to act in this way, and this seeped into the bureaucracy and the military, and some religious circles, too. The Muslims who were left behind in India were deprived of a leadership, as the more learned and the more enterprising had left for Pakistan. It took until after the analysis of the creation of Bangladesh in 1971 for the Indian Muslims to try out a course of action for themselves independent of Pakistan.
When the British Empire shrunk, it still needed a workforce, so was imported from the former colonies. As has happened with other immigrants, these settled together in "slums" and "ghettos", where a cultural and marriage links with the village back home could be maintained. As the young got some education, took jobs, and the government imposed restrictions on immigration and taking of spouses from back home, more and more young people foud themselves drawn to the host culture and formed associations which were unIslamic. I saw this phenomenon in the making, and projecting it in the future, erroneously concluded that Islam has no future in Europe and the third or fourth generation Muslims would be outside of Islam. From this I decided that since I did not want my progeny to suffer such a fate, I sought Allah's help, and came back to akistan, at a time when Zia had taken over and Islamisation was in progress. I too started to Islamise myself at a slow pace, and thought that this was now an irreversible process. When Soviet retreat from Afghanistan took place, Islamic revival loked imminen, centered in Pakistan.
We now see many in the Muslim popultion of Britain committed to Islam, compared to in Pakistan. Is it because living in a Muslim country one becomes compalcent, whereas in a non-muslim country where your faith is challenged, you are very careful about maintaning it?
Note the reversal in Pakistan from General Zia to General Musharraf - both darlings of the US.
I always thought that North America was more accomodating to the Muslims, and since those who emigrated to NA were mostly middle clss educated professionals, they would find more acceptance, and that this acceptance would result in assimilation. This, despite what the experience of some on this board is, has been true. 9/11 changed all that and the US now is a place for witch-hunting of muslims. At the same time, the assmilation was put in reverse gear.
Do you get what i am driving at? My point is that what is happening today cannot necessarily be accurately projected into the future.
Individuals, groups, nations face challenges. How severe these challenges are and what response is made, determines the progress and survival of these "foreign" groups. An earlier Muslim immigration into Australia resulted in the progeny being Christian. Same was the fate of the earlier converts to Islam in Britain, but this has not happened this time, yet.
Hijra then should be considered only when you do not see yourself as practicing the deen properly, and see the likelihood as even lesser in the future. The correct course of action for the Muslims in the US is to concentrate on Dawah by example.
|06/20/04 at 07:09:49|
|Re: bro humble Muslim & others|
|06/20/04 at 07:22:14|
|[slm] Here is a post by someone on IOL|
To sis PM re: the collapsing world, and why Muslims countries stumble but NEVER collapse Name: Kansaa 12/6/2004(1:3) GMT Reply
When people start to salvage the ruins then that is a good sign. I am certainly glad that the US is growing concerned with the increasing number of STDs amongst teenagers and the increasing numbers of AIDs victims in the more older age groups. I believe I have great respect for the American medical profession. The thing is it’s a trial and error on their part, first they think sex education would be a good thing then they realise that perhaps its not so good. Well to admit of a mistake is a good thing, its best of course to have a guide book to prevent that mistake from occurring.
As for our Muslim countries, historically every time things get really out of hand you will find some one who comes to renew the faith and the will of the ummah usually every hundred years sometimes even every decade.There were the crusaders and the occupied Palestine with the Far Mosque desecrated by the invaders, and then? A religious Quraan bound Salahuddin who swore never to smile until the Aqsaa was free of the invaders.
There were the decaying Abbasids and the golden opportunity seen by the Moguls and then Aldhahir Papers and Ain Jaalut.
There was the spread of bidaa and Sufism of the very worst kind then Mohamed Ibn AbdelWahhab came to cleanse and purify the beliefs of the people, and he was not alone, as soon as the religious scholars realised that here was a fearless man who was determined that God alone be worshipped but they sided with him.
There was the French invasion of Egypt with the Azhar dishonoured and turned into a stable for the horses of the invaders, then? Islam renewed and burning in the heart of the Muslims for their beloved Mosque the teaching place of thousands upon thousands of religious students past and present.
Another recent example-well actually there are so many examples sister, in the twentieth century -early years our grandparents were really in a sad state( I mean the general Middle Eastern population) there was a time when only old old-fashioned women wore hijab and the Mosques were deserted. When prostitute houses were as common as cafes… Then came Hassan AlBanna, and a builder he was indeed, with the religious education instilled in him from his excellent upbringing, from what he learned at college he went out and he revitalised and I will tell you it is very easy to revitalise the Muslims because deep down they have a basis for good, they believe in Allah and he who believes in Allah will have the necessary soil to develop his good points and that with far greater ease-even though it is the tiniest speck it will proliferate with speed.There was a time when the hijab was not allowed in the University grounds of Egypt. That day came and passed because we are deep down governed by Allah and we return to our origin. There was a time in the not distant past when the niqaab was not allowed in the University grounds, now? There are professors who wear the niqaab. Alhamdulilaah for Islam sister, however times we may stumble, we rise swiftly again knowing the hadith qudsi of the prophet, which briefly states if my servant comes to me walking I will hasten towards him. I believe in seeing the good in the ummah and developing that good, fruitless criticism does nothing but increase the negativity of the self more than anything or anyone else, the dawaa continues inspite of us; it is we who must hasten to join the caravans of our hardworking believing brothers and sisters, that we may reach the gates of heaven together as a group.:)
Salam alaykum wa Rahmatu Allah wa Barakatuh
|Re: bro humble Muslim & others|
|06/22/04 at 03:08:46|
| [slm] Bro. timbuktu,|
A lot of insight in your post. We can not run away. We have to stick and look around and find solutions through dawah.
The post by someone is a really beautiful one. It is full of encouragement and optimism and holds a lot of truth -renewing ourselves and finding our way back to the sunnah of Rasulullah (SAW), encouraging each other and lending a hand to those who stumble. Masha-Allah.
[quote]Alhamdulilaah for Islam sister, however times we may stumble, we rise swiftly again knowing the hadith qudsi of the prophet, which briefly states if my servant comes to me walking I will hasten towards him. I believe in seeing the good in the ummah and developing that good, fruitless criticism does nothing but increase the negativity of the self more than anything or anyone else, the dawaa continues inspite of us; it is we who must hasten to join the caravans of our hardworking believing brothers and sisters, that we may reach the gates of heaven together as a group.[/quote]
Beautiful! May Allah bless whoever he or she is. AMEEN.
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