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|Dr. Amina Wadud is Evil!!!|
|03/21/05 at 10:34:17|
We have all heard and seen it beamed all over the world how the evil woman called Amina Wadud led a so-called congregational prayer, the first time I set my eyes on her on the CNN I immediately recognised from her look that she is evil, she does not carry the peaceful look of a muslim woman!
Definitely this is end time, America has continue to be the playing field for the dajjal.
Let our muslim women be quite aware of their role as spelt out by the almighty Allah, let them bow to the Quran and Sunnah let them reject all attempt to abuse the Quran and the Sunnah under the guise of women liberation.
This is end time, let us all be aware.
May Allah foil the evil intention of Amina Wadud and her followers.
|Re: Dr. Amina Wadud is Evil!!!|
|03/21/05 at 12:42:35|
Sister, your post makes me very sad. It is reactionary and un-dawah like at all. First of all no layperson has the authority to call someone "evil" and not a "muslim woman". Please remember you are responsible for your words in front of Allah. This is why we have laws and guidelines in Islam.
Anyway here is a summary of some points a scholar brought up recently. I am closing this thread as well so that no one else makes any more mistakes upon themself.
Just attended a talk by a scholar last night, where he
brought up this topic and talked about it AT LENGTH.
Ma'shallah there is such a difference when a scholar talks
about topics and when ordinary people discuss it. There was
so much hikmah and wisdom in his talk.
Anyway I have to go off to some more exciting adventures
here but just want to give you a summary of what he said:
-the more you learn about islam the more open-minded and
broad minded you get and there was a famous scholar that
would never condemn anyone and he would always say 'maybe
they are following a different madhab'
- then he began with saying that we are so emotional as an
ummah and we just get upset with people we disagree with and
we don't even talk to each other. like for example the woman
who was trying to lead jumah in new york. people are in an
emotional fervor about it and issued death threats against
her.. instead of trying to communicate with her or discuss
- first he was extremely upset that some people were giving
"death threats" against her. he said that the declaring
someone kafir and the laws of murtd (apostacy) are extremely
complex and only allowed to be carried out by the state, and
even if what she was doing was haram... so many muslims are
committing haram and we don't go around calling for their
- secondly he said that he knows sister amina personally and
feels that she is very sincere, she has dedicated her life
to islam becoming an islamic studies professor and studying
islam. even if she is confused or saying something wrong
does not mean we should mock or not respect her. she has
more sincerity towards islam than some of the people
criticizing her. if he met her he would say salam to her.
- then he said that yes there are texts that talk about
women leading the prayer and mentioned a reference by abu
thawr and tabari who was one of the leading mufassarin of
islamic history who said under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE they can
lead AND IBN TAYMIYYAH said for taraweeh? (i think the
audience was quite shocked)
- he then went on to say that a woman leading jumah
however is INVALID and this is agreed upon by the consensus
of the scholars in all schools of Islamic thought
- so he said that yes its INVALID but we should be careful
not to get all emotional and reactionary about it and we
should be calm and 'cool as a cucumber' and try to bring
people back into the fold of islamic mainstream instead of
alienating them.. instead of chasing people further away
with condemnation and hatred
- he gave an example of this shaikh from morocco who went to
a jumah led by a woman physician and he waited till the end
to ask her what was going on, and turns out that all the men
had just converted to islam and since jumah was wajib she
didn't know what to do so she ended up doing it..but the
shaikh didn't go up and start yelling at her or calling her
kaffir etc. he kindly went up and asked her if they followed
a different madhab or something!!
-he said this wasn't a new thing and there are some places
where women have been giving khutbah for a long time, and
sadly some of their khutbahs are better than men's!! (all
the audience cracked upon that) and this is a reflection of
- he said there are so many muslims that don't even pray and
these people are at least wanting to pray and are sicnere,
so we should honor that and not humiliate them because at
least they have some kind of concern for their deen
-we shouldn't chase people away from islam, what is better
than condemning her is trying to bring to bring her back
into the mainstream scholarship of islam
- we can have valid differences and still talk to one
another with dignity and honor
-he then went on to talk about the unity of the community
etc and his main talk
- Lastly a note in the Q&A, he said that we have to be
careful about saying that Islamic scholarship is
patriarchal. it's dangerous to say that because we have so
many scholars that were women even going back to Aisha ra.
who would ask questions of the prophet to the extent of
questioning his actions and questioning why this verse and
this verse seemingly seemed contradictory, and he would
explain it to her. modern countries may oppress women but
that is completely separate from our Islamic history of
I have to go but I thought you guys could benefit from
that inshallah. May Allah forgive my mistakes in transmittal
and Allah knows best...
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