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 on: Apr 12, 2014 04:27 AM 
Started by jannah - Last post by IsmiAnisa
I have not seen the movie, but once it comes out in rentals I plan to, mostly because I am interested in seeing what all the controversy is about.  The linked review above is interesting, because he says it mostly followed the Biblical account, but other reviews I have read are upset because the movie supposedly strays greatly from the Biblical account.  Since I have not seen it, I cannot weigh in with an opinion on the matter.  One thing I thought is the same as Jannah mentioned in the first post-- possibly a good dawah opportunity.  I was thinking how the movie can actually serve as a springboard for discussion.

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 on: Apr 12, 2014 04:15 AM 
Started by jannah - Last post by IsmiAnisa
I love this article!  So beautiful!  I confess, I am not of Indian ancestry, but I am a hand-eater too.  I do it without even thinking about it.  I once was sharing a salad with a friend, and it sat between us on the table, and the whole time I picked at it with my fingers.   Embarrassed  It never even crossed my mind what my friend might think!

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 on: Apr 11, 2014 09:42 PM 
Started by Siham - Last post by Siham
As-salaamu` alaykum,
Dear sister,
Good point, this is a vast topic and I’m glad you explained that there is other way of looking into things madinaflag

Yes, I try to surround myself with positive people, because negative people are so depressing to be around (even online).
Juma`Mubarak!      

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 on: Apr 11, 2014 09:16 PM 
Started by jannah - Last post by Nature
Eh. There was a much more conservative article on MuslimMatters about this as well. I really have to say - portraying the Prophets is a no-no, and no matter how moral/awesome the film might be, it just goes against that principle. It's not so much an issue of 'benefit' as it is a simple issue of respect for the Prophets - look at what happened in Christianity when they started portraying their Prophets. The film DID contain nudity, Noah getting drunk, getting high, and it was not based on Muslim beliefs in Noah, rather very much Jewish ones. Some of my friends watched this film (nonMuslim) and praised it for being quite irreligious, just focusing on making it into an 'action' story. Some people get into a tither saying 'well I'm not going to start BELIEVING any of this' - to me that's rather like people who go to bars and say 'well I'm not drinking or doing anything wrong!'

I don't think any of this is worth the fuss, though. The principles underlying this are quite simple - either you decide to follow them, or for whatever reason, you don't.

(Portrayal of the Sahaba's stories is a different issue - I definitely prefer that people watch respectful, Muslim-produced films than those of Hollywood-taste. But even those stories are problematic in that they can over-glorify the Sahaba and place them into super-heroic positions, making them into movie stars rather than accessible people.)

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 on: Apr 11, 2014 08:57 PM 
Started by jannah - Last post by jannah
A long lost sunnah perhaps... I love to eat biryani with my hands it tastes sooooooo infinitely better because you have a little bit of everything in each mouthful.

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Is Everything More Delicious When You Eat With Your Hands?
NPR

My wife Meera and I often have non-Indian guests over for dinner – typically a sumptuous Indian meal that she makes.

Everyone digs into their rice and daal, hariyali chicken and prawn curry with silverware. Then my daughter clears her throat and quietly asks if she can please just eat with her hands.

And why wouldn't she? She's now 12 and has mostly grown up in Queens, the most diverse patch of land in the known universe. She's as comfortable taking a ham sandwich to school as steamed idlis with coconut chutney.

To her, a fork isn't a sign of Western cultural superiority; it's a nuisance and serves no useful function in an Indian meal. Hand-eating is what we do.
Arun Venugopal hand-ate in public for the first time in March.

Arun Venugopal hand-ate in public for the first time in March.
WYNC

So invariably my wife and I exchange a quick glance and give her the A-OK. Eventually I started following my kid's lead, thinking, "Well, if she can eat with her hands, why the hell can't I?"

And then, a couple weeks ago, I decided it was time for me, finally, to hand-eat in public.

Many Indians today eat breads — chapatis, parathas, naans — with their hands, but stick to utensils for rice. But hand-eating is the real deal: A set of fingers, after all, is infinitely more nimble than a set of metal tines, far better equipped to pry the spines out of a fish molee.

Indian mothers like to feed their babies by hand. And there is really nothing in the world as tasty as a ball of food fed to you at any age by your mother. Its composition is perfectly and instinctively calibrated by her fingers — a precise combination of rice and sambar, or stir-fried plantain and a couple flecks of papadom. And, of course, lots of ghee.

My mom once explained to my teenage self that the secret was biochemical: The subtle oils of her fingers imparted some sort of alchemy to the little sphere — a pheromonal cocktail, I suppose — that would only fully blossom in the mouth of her offspring. Others would just call it maternal love.

But as we got older, we mostly kept our hand-eating ways to ourselves. I grew up in Texas in the 70s and 80s and didn't want to be thought of as some kind of culinary barbarian, the Indian kid who ate like a third-world savage. Classmates who tried to get invited over to my place represented a potential threat.

It's only in recent years that I noticed how outdated this attitude was.

As an Indian friend of mine says, forks make you look colonized. So I decided, finally, to hand-eat in public, and found a public atrium on Wall Street for my big debut. (I made a video about it, too, for my WNYC series .)

I chose a fish thaali from Anjappar, a great restaurant in the Murray Hill neighborhood, featuring food from the Chettinaad region of South India. As I plunged my hand into the pile of rice and fish curry and some thin, tangy rasam, I expected a couple stares at the least.

Instead a couple old men approached me and asked for Indian restaurant recommendations — deeply anticlimactic. But I actually enjoyed my meal and figure it's now worth an encore, perhaps at a fine-dining establishment near you.

Hand-eaters of America, meet me there.

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 on: Apr 11, 2014 08:51 PM 
Started by jannah - Last post by jannah
Interesting article about an Imam who saw it here and his review... http://www.suhaibwebb.com/society/entertainment/an-imams-review-of-the-movie-noah/

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 on: Apr 11, 2014 06:56 PM 
Started by blackrose - Last post by WCoastbaba
Thanks sis J - trying my best to keep focused, keep my head up, but it's a steep mountain at this point - I've been here before, but I guess since it's that last big hump and with the clock ticking, just a different type of difficulty this time around.

BABA
desibro

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 on: Apr 11, 2014 05:01 AM 
Started by Siham - Last post by jannah
Totally agree with your whole post IsmiAnisa! It's totally what every girl is taught before she gets married and what every woman does the first year or so of marriage, until she (hopefully) realizes that does not work, that it's not all about her and that marriage is a two way street. Wives need to find their own happiness and both people need to respect each other and compromise. Also, all the studies show when we do that submission thing it's totally the opposite that happens! The husband doesn't respect the wife and no boundaries are established. Basically he can treat her how he wants because he knows she'll never leave. I know so many sister's marriages improved after they basically walked out for awhile. It is painful, but sometimes it's part of making both people realize what they're doing.

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