Salams, wa baraka for answering,
I am all too familiar with the so-called "miracles" of the Koran, but really all that has happened is that people have found verses with a vuague similarity to scientific concepts and ideas, and than the claim for miraculuos prescience is made, POST HOC every time. To add to the embarrasment, the claim is then made that "muslims have been aware of this science for millenia". Ha ha. If you were real scientists, you would see the difference between science's systematic theory bound predictions, and rambling, vuague religious poetry, and between honest endeavour and sneaky tricks. In fact I am afraid for the future of science precisely because of Muslims.
Here is the challenge: go look in the Koran, and find one peice of miraculous science that is currently not known about in the genuine scientific community, and go get yourself a Nobel prize.
Of course, you can't do that. What you do is the equivalent of taking a sly look at the answers at the back of the book, and then alter your answers, and clain you were inspired by genius (nay, "God") all along. Holy cow, you get a gold star for cheating, eh?
The challenge remains, look through for one miracle which beats the scientist to the answer, and go post it to Nature journal or the New Scientist magazine. Let's see something on the scope of fingerprints and forensics, or cosmology, embryology, or cladistics, or genetic engineering, something which one ickle verse obviously predicts, and predicts in unambiguous scientific detail.
But a better challange would be to produce, as a community, a Nobel prize winner instead of another Mufti.
I won't hold my breath.
Then again sister, the people who mention uneducated peasants and blind, brinwashed zeal, could just have a point, nay?
Finally , to see how scientific you are, ask yourself, "Do I believe in evolution?". You will find yourself in an enlightened minority, and going against the grain of even the "great scientist" Harun Yahya, if you do believe in common anscestry, mutation and natural selection. You know, I have even heard a fundie say that evolution is in the Koran. Well it takes all types.
Finally, no finally this time, please do not commit a fallacy of relevance. Please do not think, just because you are happy, and healthy, and maybe even wise, that this proves your belief and way of like to be grounded in actual supernatural inspiration. You say you accept God's all knowing ruling, but really all you have is faith in men who say they are inspired. At least you know
that the men exist, (and no I'm not trying to start a feminist revolution).
Knowledge in recent tradition has beed described as belief acquired through a reliable process (see "reliablism
"). Your senses tell you that men exist, and it is intersublectively varified and varifiable. I have shown you how the so called "miracles" are most likely post hoc interpretations of a vuague text, and will reiterate that science, as the most relieble process we know for giving us knowledge about the world around us, differs greatly from blind leaps of faith, and takleed, and other such Islamic 'virtues'.
If you disagree with what I say, then that is fine, but it would be more "humanistic" if you used rigoruos logic and reason, rather than leaps in the dark, into the "unseen", and "unknowable" to ground your sense of knowledge, and to embody your syllogistic justifications.
And what I think of the sense of the divine is what I make of other horemonal and emotional responses to other forms of ideation, like thinking of an FSM
, or even of a flower. They - the horemones and feelings - are material entities in the bloodstream and the brain, they belong to the workings of that good ole' grey matter, and the body it belongs in, not some response to a ghostlike spirit in the sky. Did you know that a sense of the "numinous" (spiritual presence) could be created by stimulating the temporal lobes? Actually, with this in mind, it is unlikely that you (or I ) will change our minds, as we have differing basal neurological states and different "material spiritualities". No matter what I say, you will have that feeling, and it will seem to attest as strongly as your eyes.
However, it'sbeen nice listening to myself (just kidding), back to you. (insha allah).