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« on: Oct 26, 2008 06:19 PM »

what is the argument against pantheistic beliefs?

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« Reply #1 on: Nov 19, 2008 02:29 PM »

will you define pantheism? I know it has dictionary definitions, but I want to see what you mean by it.
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 20, 2008 06:55 PM »

Asalamualaikum wrt wb,

All praise be to Allah.

The Quran asks, where did the universe come from?  If one says, it created itself, without a Powerful and Knowledgable Creator, this response is rejected, since the evidence of Allah's Power and Knowledge is evident in the Perfection of the Universe.

Allah then asks, did you create it?  The answer is definitely not, since we are part of creation, so we could not have created ourselves and taken ourselves from a point of non-existence into existence, only Allah can do that, since He is Qayyum, Self Sustaining, everything depends on Him for their existence, but He does not depend on anyone else for His Existence.

Finally, if someone acknowledges the belief in God, but believe Creator and creation are intertwined into One being (this is my understanding of pantheism), this is impossible logically.  Everything in creation is finite, while Allah is infinite.  Created matter must have a beginning and an end, while Allah is eternal, ever living.  Matter is dependent on Allah for its existence, Allah is independent of matter for His Existence.  Pantheism is in direct opposition to the verse of Allah,

"There is none like unto Him; and He is the all Hearing, the all Seeing."

Hindus, who have pantheistic views, realize this logical impossibility, so they acknowlege the existence of a supreme "God", Brahma, but worship idols as a means of attaining closeness to the 'real' God.  Once a higher state of consciousness is acheived, the idols are not really needed.  This idol worship is rejected in the Vedas.

As Zakir Naik says, we Muslims have already reached the higher state of consiousness, without needing to resort to idols in the first place.

May Allah guide all of us to the true and correct aqeedah (beliefs) as taught by the most knowledgable of human beings, Prophet Muhammad, may peace and the blessings of Allah be upon him.

And Allah knows best.

Be merciful to those on earth, and the One in the Heavens will be merciful to you.
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