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« on: Dec 17, 2009 02:39 PM »


Father guilty of 'honour killing'
A father has been found guilty of murdering his 15-year-old daughter in a so-called honour killing.

Schoolgirl Tulay Goren disappeared in 1999 after having a relationship with a man who her family disapproved of.

Her father Mehmet, 49, was found guilty of murder. His brothers Cuma Goren, 42, and Ali Goren, 55, were found not guilty of the same charge.

Tulay was last seen at her family home in Woodford Green, north London, in January 1999, the Old Bailey heard.

The body of the schoolgirl - who told a friend she may have been pregnant just before she disappeared - has never been found.

The court previously heard Mehmet Goren disapproved of Tulay's relationship with factory worker Halil Unal because of religious differences and the fact Mr Unal was 15 years older than Tulay.

'Appalling and inappropriate'

Mehmet and his brothers Cuma and Ali, both from Walthamstow, east London, were all cleared of conspiring to murder Mr Unal, between May 1998 and February 1999.

On 7 January 1999 Mehmet, a part-time fish and chip shop worker, told his eight-year-old son Tuncay to kiss Tulay goodbye, as he would never see his sister again.

Jonathan Laidlaw QC, prosecuting, said he killed Tulay "to restore the so-called honour" of the family, who originate from Turkey.


The term "honour" was an "appalling and inappropriate way" to "dignify" the offence, he added.

The court heard Mr Unal was brought up as a Sunni Muslim while the Gorens were from the Alevi branch of the faith.

Despite coming from places no more than 60 miles apart in Turkey, a relationship between the sects "would not have been tolerated".

The defendant decided to carry out the killing "to avoid further humiliation". He had earlier called Mr Unal telling him to stay away from the teenager.

Police became involved in the weeks leading up to the murder when Mehmet beat up Mr Unal, then complained about the relationship to officers and demanded his daughter take a virginity test.

Before her death, Tulay ran away and told police her father had beaten her, and that she would rather be taken into care than return home. But her mother later persuaded her to go back.

Mehmet attacked his daughter's boyfriend with a hatchet outside an east London pub 13 days after the murder and in hospital Mr Unal reported her missing, the jury heard.

Goren was jailed for seven years in 2000 for his hatchet attack on Mr Unal, later reduced to five on appeal - and served three.

But the attack and the disappearance were treated separately and it was two months before detectives began to suspect Tulay had been murdered.

Mehmet Goren's wife Hanim, 45, is now living in fear after she named him as their daughter's killer, saying he had "swallowed" Tulay.

Defendant collapsed

He collapsed in the dock at the Old Bailey as she began giving evidence against him and she later screamed at her husband across the courtroom, demanding to know what he had done with the girl.

Police said they were now better able to recognise "tell-tale signs" connected to honour violence.

Jonathan Laidlaw QC, prosecuting, said that the Goren case was a "terrible reminder of what honour-based crime can involve" and a "wake-up call" to the existence of the problem in this country.

Mehmet is due to be sentenced later.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8389053.stm

Published: 2009/12/17 14:28:06 GMT

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« Reply #1 on: Dec 17, 2009 05:42 PM »

Did you see how they tried to insinuate that Alevism is part of Islam to try and defame Islam?
Alevism has nothing to do with Islam and Islam has nothing to do with Alevism. Alevs Belong to the same group of religions as Yezidism(Satan worship). That group of religions has much in common with Zarostianism. The Book of Zarostius is actually one of the Alevi holy books.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 18, 2009 02:12 PM »

The focus of the article is more about the horrible crime committed by a father against his daughter.  Regardless of one reference to Alevi's, or even to religion in general ... the crime is despicable and so terribly wrong. 

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« Reply #3 on: Dec 18, 2009 02:21 PM »

I agree it is a bad thing. That is why they were trying to label it on us and not upon themselves.
Most children who are killed are killed by their parents.
Lets do a count and see in which communities and which countries more parents kill their children?

And What they said about the motive for the killing was a lie anyway. Because the Killer wasn't even Muslim.
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