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« on: Apr 21, 2010 09:27 AM »


Why do they always blame the women  fez

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8631775.stm
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 21, 2010 11:25 AM »

LOL........half the world should be extint by now....... Tongue

And why do these brave, strong, superior people (equipped with superior decision making skills and leadership qualities, and emotional control) called MEN bro arabbeardbro malaybro arabbro sudanibro desibro fez turn into helpless slaves when it comes to controlling their behaviour that leads to sin........

I think Iran needs some strong charactered men......
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 21, 2010 01:30 PM »

In the words of the inimitable (Chief) Inspector Jaque (sp?) Cleaseau (Pink Panther - Peter Sellers) when asked:

"How can an idiot be a policeman?"

He replied:

"all he has to do is enlist!"

I read somewhere that it is recommended in islamic thinking that all people have a job earning a livelihood - any religious study etc is in addition to this job not a substitute or alternative- anybody who has to earn a honest would have no time for such moronic statements...
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 21, 2010 03:24 PM »

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Why do they always blame the women

Must be they are being promiscuous without men... Tongue

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« Reply #4 on: Apr 21, 2010 04:36 PM »

salaam

I don't know but I think that its a very scary accusation and generalization that the man made.  There could have been tons of reasons the quake happened, he is NOT God. There are faaaaaaaar more worse things that people do then not cover properly. One should remember also a man who sees a naked women and gives into desire will still be responsible for his lack of control.
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 25, 2010 09:36 AM »

as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah,

I know that in times of drought, before the Istisqaa prayer is performed (the prayer for seeking rain), the leaders of the community are supposed to encourage everyone to repent and refrain from sinning, to give any overdue zakah that is due upon them and fulfill any other religious obligations, to increase in good deeds, and particularly to fast the few days before the prayer is performed.  This is because there is a deep connection between our actions and these types of natural disasters.  While it's true that we do not know whether a natural disaster is meant as a punishment, a warning, or a purification for the people, our response should be the same, which is that we should reconsider our actions and become more fearful and conscious of Allah's power and ability.  There is a narration that in the time of Umar (radiAllahu anhu) there was an earthquake in Madinah, and he got up on the pulpit and told the people that, "This is due to some misdeeds of yours, and either you return to righteousness or I will leave this place."

So there is definitely a relationship that exists between our actions and natural occurrences and the leaders of the community should point this out, and encourage people to return to Allah (swt).  If there are particular bad deeds that the people are openly doing, then I think it's good to point those out and remind everyone about what our deen teaches in that regard.  However, I think that when such things occur the society as a whole needs to be introspective and not find a scape goat or blame a particular group or party among them.

This is something reflected even in the fiqh of the prayer for rain - it is usually performed in an open area and *everyone* is supposed to attend.  Some opinions say that if there are non-Muslims living in the land, they are to attend the prayer as well, and that people should even bring their livestock and horses too!  The reason for this is so that the entire community is gathered together and shows their shared need for Allah - they are all in the same boat, so to speak, and every one of them is in need of His mercy and compassion.

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« Reply #6 on: Apr 27, 2010 02:12 PM »

Column: Monday’s ‘Boobquake’ all in jest 
Written by Kelsey Samuels - Argonaut   
Monday, 26 April 2010

Show some skin to prove a point (and feel scandalous)

Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi, the acting Friday prayer leader of Tehran, Iran, may have been proven correct Monday when a 6.5 magnitude earthquake shook Taiwan.

“Boobquake” began as a joke event on Facebook created by Purdue student Jennifer McCreight in response to the Iranian cleric’s statements about modesty. Participants were encouraged to show their cleavage and/or some leg in an effort to prove breasts do not cause natural disasters, contrary to this statement: “Many women who do not dress modestly ... lead young men astray, corrupt their chastity and spread adultery in society, which (consequently) increases earthquakes,” Sedighi said to Iranian media.

His explanation for the natural disaster followed President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s statement that a quake is certain to hit Tehran, in which he urged inhabitants to relocate.
So did his prediction come true? Almost.

Taiwan and Iran are a China’s length away, but Sedighi and Ahmadinejad may have been onto something.

The importance of “Boobquake” is that women feel free to shake what their mamas gave ‘em. It’s a day, rooted in jest, to encourage women to step out of the cultural norm and show a little skin, whatever it may be — maybe a particularly conservative woman wearing a pair of pants instead of a full-length skirt, or another rebelled by “forgetting” to wear the lace-trimmed tank top under a low-cut top.

“Boobquake” creator McCreight said on the Facebook event Web site she hates the idea that “big boobs are always better,” and that’s not the point of “Boobquake.” She also said it’s not meant to be serious activism, but juvenile humor and light-hearted mockery.

This will not change the cleric’s mind, and most participants had to know that. Sedighi will probably be surprised his off-hand comment got so much attention, especially since there was a good chance he did not mean for it to be taken literally.

While some women of the Palouse were scantily clad, most were business as usual. There were, however, a few micro-mini skirts, but that’s nearly commonplace for a warmer day in spring.

As of press time, there were no earthquakes reported on the Palouse. Better luck next time.

Regardless, he said it, and it’s the kind of thing college kids enjoy protesting in one way or another, and a special day to get a few double-takes and feel a little scandalous.

It’s the modern-day equivalent of burning bras, and boy, it’s just as fun.


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« Reply #7 on: Apr 27, 2010 03:38 PM »

 Yup that is what I was afraid of! When there is a natural disaster you are talking to the world so its best to choose your words wisely me thinks Alllahu alim
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