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« on: May 04, 2010 07:22 PM »


What a complete idiot. For real. Do these people ever watch CSI. Why do they think they can get away with something on this massive scale. And again what did he gain?? Ruined his life, his wife's life, his two kids, his extended family. Pakistan again under questions. Muslims in the US again under question. Damaged the name of Islam. Tried to kill innocent people walking around Times Square??!!! For what?!! What an idiot.

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Suspect in Times Square plot faces terror charges

NEW YORK – A Pakistani-born U.S. citizen was hauled off a plane about to fly to the Middle East and will face terrorism charges in the failed attempt to explode a bomb-laden SUV in the heart of Times Square, authorities said Tuesday. One official said he claimed to be acting alone.

Faisal Shahzad has admitted his role in the botched bombing attempt and is talking to investigators, providing them with valuable information, Attorney General Eric Holder said.

Shahzad was on board a Dubai-bound flight that was taxiing away from the gate at Kennedy Airport late Monday when the plane was stopped and FBI agents and New York Police Department detectives took him into custody, law enforcement officials said.

Shahzad, scheduled to appear later Tuesday in federal court in Manhattan, will face terrorism and weapons of mass destruction charges, Holder said.

"Based on what we know so far, it is clear that this was a terrorist plot aimed at murdering Americans in one of the busiest places in our country," he added.

In Pakistan, intelligence officials said at least one man has been detained in the southern city of Karachi in connection with the Times Square case: a man named Tauseef who was a friend of Shahzad. He did not say when the man was picked up.

Another Pakistani official said several people had been taken into custody since the failed attack. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of their work.

President Barack Obama said the FBI was investigating possible ties between Shahzad and terrorist groups.

Obama said "hundreds of lives" may have been saved Saturday night by the quick action of ordinary citizens and law enforcement authorities who saw the smoking SUV parked in Times Square.

"As Americans and as a nation, we will not be terrorized. We will not cower in fear. We will not be intimidated," Obama said.

Shahzad, 30, had recently returned from a five-month trip to Pakistan, where he had a wife, according to law enforcement officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation into the failed car bombing.

Shahzad became a naturalized U.S. citizen last year shortly before traveling to Pakistan, a federal law enforcement official in Washington said, speaking on condition of anonymity amid the ongoing investigation.

Investigators hadn't established an immediate connection to the Pakistani Taliban — which had claimed responsibility for the botched bombing in three videos — or any foreign terrorist groups, a law enforcement official told the AP.

"He's claimed to have acted alone, but these are things that have to be investigated," the official said.

A Pakistani TV station reported that Shahzad spent time in Karachi and visited the northwestern city of Peshawar during his stay in Pakistan. Peshawar is a gateway for foreigners seeking to travel into nearby tribal regions, where militant groups have long had sanctuary.

In Washington, Pakistani Embassy spokesman Nadeem Haider Kiani said it's too soon to tell what motivated the bomber. Asked whether there were ties to foreign terrorist groups, Kiani said early indications suggest the bomber was "a disturbed individual."

Another law enforcement official said Shahzad was not known to the U.S. intelligence community before the failed bombing attempt, in which authorities found a crude bomb of gasoline, propane and fireworks in a 1993 Nissan Pathfinder parked on a bustling street in Times Square.

FBI agents searched the home at a known address for Shahzad in Bridgeport, Conn., early Tuesday, said agent Kimberly Mertz, who wouldn't answer questions about the search.

Authorities removed filled plastic bags from the house in a mixed-race, working-class neighborhood of multifamily homes in Connecticut's largest city. A bomb squad came and went without entering as local police and FBI agents gathered in the cordoned-off street. FBI agents appeared to have found fireworks in the driveway that they were marking off as evidence.

Shahzad was being held in New York and couldn't be contacted. A phone number at a listed address for Shahzad in Shelton, Conn., wasn't in service.

He used to live in a two-story grayish-brown colonial with a sloping yard in a working-class neighborhood in Shelton. The home looked as if it had been unoccupied for a while, with grass growing in the driveway and bags of garbage lying about.

Shahzad graduated from the University of Bridgeport with a bachelor's degree in computer applications and information systems in 2000 and later returned to earn a master's of business administration in 2005, the school said.

A neighbor in Bridgeport described him as quiet.

"Nobody ever had a problem with him," said Dawn Sampson, 34, who lives across the street from Shahzad's third-floor apartment. She said he had remodeled it and had put on the market to rent for $1,200, a fee she thought was much too high.

Law enforcement officials say Shahzad paid $1,300 cash three weeks ago for the Pathfinder, going first for a test-drive in a mall and offering less than the $1,800 advertised price. Peggy Colas, 19, of Bridgeport, sold the car to Shahzad after he answered an Internet ad, law enforcement officials said. The officials spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the case.

The vehicle identification number had been removed from the Pathfinder's dashboard, but it was stamped on the engine, and investigators used it to find the owner of record, who told them a stranger bought it. As the SUV buyer came into focus, investigators backed off other leads.

The SUV was parked near a theater where the musical "The Lion King" was being performed. The bomb inside it had cheap-looking alarm clocks connected to a 16-ounce can filled with fireworks, which were apparently intended to detonate gas cans and set off propane tanks in a chain reaction "to cause mayhem, to create casualties," police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.

A metal rifle cabinet in the SUV's cargo area was packed with fertilizer, but NYPD bomb experts believe it was not a type volatile enough to explode like the ammonium nitrate grade fertilizer used in previous terrorist bombings.

Police said the SUV bomb could have produced "a significant fireball" and sprayed shrapnel with enough force to kill pedestrians and knock out windows.

A vendor alerted a police officer to the parked SUV, which was smoking. Times Square, clogged with tourists on a warm evening, was shut down for 10 hours. A bomb squad dismantled the bomb and no one was hurt.

Holder urged Americans should remain vigilant.

"It's clear that the intent behind this terrorist act was to kill Americans," he said.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the arrest should not be as used as an excuse for anti-Muslim actions. "We will not tolerate any bias or backlash against Pakistani or Muslim New Yorkers," he said.

Authorities did not address Shahzad's plans in Dubai. The airport there is the Middle East's busiest and is a major transit point for passengers traveling between the West and much of Asia, particularly India and Pakistan.

Dubai-based Emirates airline said three passengers were pulled from Flight EK202, which was delayed for about seven hours. The airline did not identify Shahzad by name or name the other two passengers.

The aircraft and passengers were then screened again before taking off Tuesday morning, and the airline is "cooperating with the local authorities," Emirates said in a statement e-mailed to the AP. The other two passengers who had been removed were allowed to get back aboard the flight, the airline said.

Pakistan Interior Minister Rehman Malik told the AP that authorities had not been formally asked for help in the investigation but would cooperate if asked.

More than a dozen people with U.S. citizenship or residency, like Shahzad, have been accused in the past two years of supporting, attempting or carrying out attacks on U.S. soil, illustrating the threat of violent extremism from within the U.S.

Among them are Army Maj. Nidal Hasan, a U.S.-born Army psychiatrist of Palestinian descent, charged with fatally shooting 13 people last year at Fort Hood, Texas; Najibullah Zazi, a Denver-area airport shuttle driver who pleaded guilty in February in a plot to bomb New York subways; and a Pennsylvania woman who authorities say became radicalized online as "Jihad Jane" and plotted to kill a Swedish artist whose work offended Muslims.
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2010 02:18 AM »

my wife and her sister were in the area that evening
Too close to home !
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010 10:05 AM »

More thoughts...

Well the Islamophobes are having a field day. And of course the neighbors come out as usual to say he "was a quiet guy" but "they always had a funny feeling about him" and that he used to "jog at night wearing all black" and that they once had a "tag sale selling their stuff". Very ominious indeed. And then there are the pictures. The main picture spread all over the media of him is actually him cropped out of a picture holding his baby. Obviously not good media to show a picture of a man holding a newborn baby with headlines screaming terrorist. Then there are pictures of him with his bluetooth driving, with a camera and his arms around his wife at some NYC landmark. Pictures of the 300k house he took a mortgage out on and lost, interior and exterior. And they say he confessed everything and "cooperated" and THEN they read him his rights and he cooperated some more and admitted to everything. Hmm.

I just don't get it. He may have lost his house with the mortgage (which he shouldn't have had in the first place as a Muslim. this is why mortgages are haram because you are buying on complete speculative credit which can easily backfire on u and if it doesn't u still end up paying thru the nose) and been bankrupt. But come on why throw ur whole life away. can someone be so stupid as to believe they'd never get caught at something like this. with all the technology and monitoring and recording and complete access they give to the govt??!

anyways he had an MBA! i can't understand it. america seems stumped too, there's headlines like "from fatherly family man to taliban bomber". but then they come to their senses and realize he was MUSLIM and that should be enough and he also went to Pakistan and of course got trained by the taliban over there.  He must hate our freedoms... even though... he lived all of them... big house, 2 kids, wife, job in the city...wait... still kinda confused.

and of course his wife graduated from college in Colorado is breaking news because didn't some other wack terrorist like live somewhere in Denver once? There must be a connection! yeah i know it must be a sleeper cell!!

didn't any muslims know these ppl though?? like where are they to tell us anything.

just another sad sad day being an American Muslim

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From New Citizen to Suspect in a Year
Pakistan-Born Shahzad Faced Foreclosure in Connecticut and Disliked President Bush; an Invisible Man at His University
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Faisal Shahzad was losing his Connecticut home to foreclosure, disliked President George W. Bush, and was an almost invisible presence at the American university where he earned two degrees.

Those are some of the details in the still-emerging portrait of the man who authorities say has implicated himself in the botched Times Square bomb plot.

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Mr. Shahzad was born in Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province, according to Pakistan's U.S. embassy. He worked at a Connecticut marketing firm until 2009, the same year he became a U.S. citizen.

At the time of his arrest, Mr. Shahzad and his wife, Huma Mian, were facing foreclosure on the compact home of gray vinyl shingles they owned on Long Hill Avenue near the center of Shelton, Conn. He is "financially bankrupt," said a high-level official briefed on the investigation.

Neighbors and brokers said Mr. Shahzad and his wife had moved away and abandoned the house months ago. A lockbox with a key was on the front door, and the lawn was being mowed on behalf of the bank, J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., which issued the mortgage when the house was purchased in 2004.
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The mailbox with Faisal Shazad's name at the Bridgeport house.

Mr. Shahzad bought his house that July for $273,000, brokers said, with 20% down and an 80% mortgage with Chase. It was a new house built on a lot in an existing neighborhood. Brokers said he used the proceeds of the sale of a condominium he owned in Norwalk, Conn., to pay for it. He later added his wife to the deed.

Chase Home Finance filed a foreclosure action against the couple last September, and court dockets indicate they didn't show up to defend themselves. They were listed as "non-appearing" parties. The most recent papers were filed in the case on April 23.

Frank DelVecchio, a broker based in Trumbull, Conn., listed the house off and on for Mr. Shahzad starting in 2008. When the listing expired last spring, he said, Mr. Shahzad sent him an email message saying he "had to let the house go to the bank" and was returning to Pakistan to take care of his parents, in particular his ill father.

"He was very disappointed that he wasn't getting his house sold," Mr. DelVecchio said.

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Igor Djuric, a broker who showed Mr. Shahzad the 1,356-square-foot home he eventually bought, said he remembered that Mr. Shahzad was quiet about himself, but was openly critical of President Bush in the aftermath of the Iraq war.

"I didn't take it for anything, since a lot of people didn't like Bush," Mr. Djuric said, "but he was a little bit strong about expressing it."

The only thing strange about Mr. Shahzad that next-door neighbor Brenda Thurman could remember was his habit of going jogging at night wearing all black. He told her he didn't like the sunlight, she said.

At home, he sometimes wore ankle-length traditional Muslim garb, said Ms. Thurman, who lived next to Mr. Shahzad for more than three years, but he wore a shirt and tie to work. He would leave the house in the morning in a burgundy car and return in the evening.

Sometimes, relatives would come to visit, she said, driving cars with New York license plates.

Ms. Thurman's daughter occasionally played with his daughter. Then one day last May, Mr. Shahzad disappeared. His wife, two children and his wife's two sisters—who also lived in the house—held a tag sale in July. Ms. Thurman paid $5 for four pillows—"a steal," she said. Then her neighbors were gone. She didn't know where they went. The house has sat empty since then, she said.

"He was a little weird," she said. "I didn't know he was that damn weird."

Other real-estate brokers and a lawyer who worked with Mr. Shahzad described him as soft-spoken, well-dressed and intelligent, but very reserved.

After leaving his home in Shelton, Mr. Shahzad spent some of his time at a three-story, beige building on Sheridan Street in Bridgeport, Conn. Neighbors said he didn't appear to live there. He didn't stay overnight, but would come for short visits and leave.

"He would come, maybe stay for 20 minutes," said Taquana Staples, 22 years old, who lives a few houses down. "He didn't come around that much. He wasn't suspicious. He kept to himself." She said she hadn't seen him in several weeks.

Some neighbors said they were evacuated by the FBI Monday night and only able to return Tuesday morning. The apartment had a for-rent sign posted in the front yard.

Ms. Staples said the materials that authorities hauled out of the apartment made it seem like a storage space. "It's very scary to see what they brought out of the house," she said, referring to wires.

Mr. Shahzad received two degrees from the University of Bridgeport—a B.A. in 2000 in computer science and engineering, and an M.B.A. in 2005. Professors there said they had been discussing Mr. Shahzad for much of Tuesday morning, trying to recall what he was like, yet few were able to remember.

Prof. Robert Todd said his records showed that Mr. Shahzad was in at least one of his classes, but "I don't remember the kid," Mr. Todd said. "He was not obviously outstanding or horrible."

Ward Thrasher, director of the M.B.A. program, said he only remembered Mr. Shahzad's name, and that Mr. Shahzad took longer than most to complete his degree, because he was taking only one or two classes a semester.

"There are kids who over the years make an impression on faculty and advisers," Mr. Thrasher said. "This kid doesn't appear to have impressed anyone, favorably or unfavorably."

Mr. Shahzad is the son of retired Air Vice Marshall Baharul Haq, a former top Pakistani air force officer and deputy director general of the civil aviation authority, according to Kifyat Ali, a cousin of Mr. Shahzad's father. Mr. Ali, who spoke to the Associated Press, said Mr. Shahzad "was never linked to any political or religious party here" in Peshawar.

Law-enforcement officers were seen at a Bridgeport mosque Tuesday morning, but so far authorities have revealed no evidence that religious extremism motivated Mr. Shahzad, nor have acquaintances recalled him voicing extremist views.

Mr. Shahzad initially lived in the U.S. under visas designed to facilitate his education and employment. In December 1998, he was granted an F-1 student visa. Immigration officials noted then there was "no derogatory information" on him in any database, a law enforcement official said.

He first attended Southeastern University in Washington, D.C., a small school that lost its accreditation last year. In 2000, Mr. Shahzad transferred to the University of Bridgeport.

In April 2002, he was granted an H1-B visa for skilled workers; he stayed in the U.S. for three years on that visa, gaining his M.B.A. It is not clear what company sponsored the visa, which is used to attract workers with a "specialty occupation," such as information technology.

Mr. Shahzad worked in Norwalk, Conn., for international marketing firm Affinion Group from 2006 to June 2009, according to Affinion spokesman James Hart, and left the firm "of his own accord." He was a junior financial analyst, Mr. Hart said, one of 50 such analysts at the 3,500-employee firm that helps larger companies offer royalty point programs and runs a leisure travel agency.

"He definitely was very regimented and cared very much about what he did," said Timothy Dileo, 43, of Norwalk, who said he worked with Mr. Shahzad at Affinion for a year and a half until January 2009. "He was always a very nice person," Mr. Dileo added, but never talked about his personal life.

"We've reached out to the federal government and are providing all of the assistance they need," Mr. Hart said, adding that government investigators have begun interviewing employees who knew Mr. Shahzad.

On Oct. 20, 2008, Mr. Shahzad reported his marriage to a woman he identified as Huma Asif Mian, a U.S. citizen. He became naturalized as a U.S. citizen on April 17, 2009.

On her social networking page, his wife listed her languages as English, Pashto, Urdu and French, her religion as Muslim and her political views as "nonpolitical," according to AP. Her favorite television shows were "Everybody Loves Raymond" and "Friends."

While law enforcement officials don't have exhaustive details of his travels after he was naturalized, one trip in particular stands out: He left New York on June 2, 2009, on an Emirates flight to Dubai. He stayed overseas for eight months, including in Pakistan, and returned on Feb. 3, 2010, on another Emirates flight from Dubai.

Mr. Shahzad was arrested late Monday on board an Emirates flight from New York City to Dubai. He was bound for Islamabad, according to people with knowledge of the situation.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2010 06:04 PM »

Yes his 'normal' image with a family, education, and citizen status is bothering.
I don't understand either. Didn't any Muslims know him?
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010 04:43 AM »

Siddiqui!!! Way too close to home..I'm glad nothing happened!.what's going on in this world. Just a half hour ago I was passing through the triborough bridge on a bus back from manhattan. Guess what!? Southbound traffic halted!..HALTED. Massive amount of fire trucks, cops etc. I come home and put on the news to see what was going on. Seems a UHAUL truck was abandoned on the ramp to the bridge and there was smell of gasoline. So they stopped all traffic and called in the bomb squad to see whats up. Could just be a regular thing, no biggie..or could be something else.  But I pass through that area every day on the express bus...every single day.

Oh boy.

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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010 08:46 AM »

Salaams,
There's this long article today in the NYTimes, largely based on gossip. This is one of the leading papers, if not the leading paper in the country.  Look at this paragraph:
"A Pakistani man said that an acquaintance of his who was a friend of the Shahzad family told him that within the past year, Mr. Shahzad had peered critically at a glass of whiskey the friend was holding, indicating a judgmental stance typical for rigid jihadis."

This is just one small paragraph. 
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010 06:54 PM »

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What a complete idiot. For real. Do these people ever watch CSI. Why do they think they can get away with something on this massive scale. And again what did he gain?? Ruined his life, his wife's life, his two kids, his extended family. Pakistan again under questions. Muslims in the US again under question. Damaged the name of Islam. Tried to kill innocent people walking around Times Square??!!! For what?!! What an idiot.

My sentiments exactly Sr. Jannah. I thought of your "letter" when this news broke. I even texted my Baji in Karachi, saying how our organizations are trying their best to make headway into interfaith dialogues, invites to mosques, etc . . (poor CAIR, I mean, they were in support of the arrest, but some in the media still accuse them of trying to be moderate ,but having other motives . . I think they are doing a great job under the circumstances) - even back home, our Islamic School /Org have Christian guests duirng our monthly potlucks, along with guests from their families etc and we share meals together . . BUT then, when such idiots do such things (not to mention ruin his own life, but as you said, his wife and children - I mean, WHY??? Enjoy your life, face the struggles as they come, have Faith) and set us back another Allah Knows how many years (decades probably) and it's not like we have "caught up" in that dept either. ARGH!

Wow, its the first time I heard that one pic is with his baby and I had also seen the pic of him and his wife together, but first time I'm seeing the others. Really sad, heartbreaking, frustrating and depressing.

I really want to settle down in the US, job, family etc, but it just seems things are, if we can even say it, are getting worse for us in the US.  Allah Forbid if the thought of moving out of the country enters my mind, though doesn't seem to be better anywhere else. I am really proud to live in America - it is a great country when things work right and when we can all get along, live in peace, respect each other and agree that we have some differences, but still work together to improve relations and understanding.

I hope he realizes at some point, as to what he has done. He should look at Kasab - only 22 years old - who is now scheduled to be hanged - to really hink before taking such drastic action, without considering, if not your own, but others people's lives, innocent ones, whether they be that of fellow citizens, your wife & children or both.

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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010 07:17 PM »

so depressing...

if you are pakistani, it must really suck right now.

pakistan is even in the movies these days.  in Iron Man 2, the main protagonist Ivan Danko, goes to jail for selling nuclear stuff to Pakistan.

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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2010 09:00 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2010 10:26 PM »



I didn't realize before I posted this that they mentioned the "Portland 7" (J. Ashcroft era) - sadly, I knew one these "idiots" or rather, met one of them and who was actually present when we washed my father's body before his burial, as this idiot was a convert (so this was an opportunity for him to see an Islamic ritual. He was the only one of the 7 not to cooperate with the govt. and is now spending 18 yrs to life in jail.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010 06:14 AM »

Asalaamu Alaikum bro

There is no doubt, things are getting tougher for us especially for those Muslims living in the West.

Perhaps these times are a lesson for all of us to all look inward and really look at what we are doing with our lives and perhaps an opportunity to reflect on how circumstances can change in but a twinkling of an eye.



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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010 08:45 AM »

Imam Zaid breaks it down:

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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2010 12:00 AM »

Great break down by Imam Shakir.

Here is more from NY's Pakistani community and guess what - they are having to pose as Indians in some cases - this happened after 9/11. My amma and I met a couple at a medical conference back in 2004 in Hawaii (I know, you are jealous! Tongue) and we were having a continental breakfast early at 7 am. We shared a table with this couple and another American couple. From the Asian couple, the wife was a doctor and as we ate, we were exchanging background and it came up that they were also from the same city that my father was from. So naturally, we were excited,

Later, when my Amma and the aunty were inside at the lecture, , as I later found out from Amma, the aunty admitted they were in fact, Pakistani. They were afraid to say that in front of the American couple. Looks like there will much more of this now thanks to this latest setback.



The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another:  [9:71]
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