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Author Topic: I fondled Shirin, You killed Farhad (Dialogue between Love & Pain)  (Read 989 times)
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« on: Jun 02, 2010 06:39 AM »


- Jaihoon

On the pathway of Life met
Strangers two who alike felt

Never before had they seen
To know each other they’re keen

Said Love,

In the lover’s heart do I blossom
I am fondled in the beloved’s bosom

I make Majnun dance
I am the ring on Leila’s hands

I convince Farhad to dig the rocks
I lure Shirin out of her palace doors

Friends spend on my behalf
For hours they rejoice and laugh

Tell me about your tale
From where do you hail?

Why do we look similar
As I see you in my mirror?

Replied Pain

Ah! I am that sigh
At my hands all cry

I bring tears in the lover
I make beloved to shiver

Majnun suffers and hides his face
Leila loses her dreams in to haze

I kill the pride of Farhad
Shirin ends the life she had

Friends curse their own hearts
I am the fire when the dear parts”

Said love

If I am the seed at the start
You are the harvest in the end

We grow in the same land
I the profit, you the loss

Lovers cannot eat me alone
They can have us only as twin”

O lovers!
Jaihoon has said nothing new
This truth but is known to few


Inspired from the talk of my son. Farhad, Shirin and Majnun,Leila are characters from romantic epics of the past

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« Reply #1 on: Jun 02, 2010 07:13 AM »

The word 'fondled' has not good connotations in American English. It means like "touched inappropriately" almost close to the word "molested". Did you mean to say 'touched' or 'cherished'??
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 02, 2010 08:18 AM »

Verb 1. fondle - touch or stroke lightly in a loving or endearing manner http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fondle

i think the meaning is understood since its poetical. Shirin, the beloved, was fondled in the love of Farhad. i find that quite natural and culturally approp

Since Shirin is from persia, the American interpretation of the word is out of question  Wink

Thanx for the suggestion though  Smiley



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« Reply #3 on: Jun 02, 2010 11:41 AM »

Connotation and meaning are different.

For example Gay: Bright or lively, especially in color: a gay, sunny room.

But today's meaning and connotation is completely different.

If any Americans read your poetry, they will cringe like I did. Just something to keep in mind.
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 02, 2010 12:38 PM »

Jazak Allah. i got ur point.

But i think artists have a minumum liberty to choose the words they prefer depending on the context it is used in their own culture first, others second.

Its funny how certain words, like the ones u described, their usages change over time .  Huh?

The word cringe for examlpe has different shades.  i thinnk u meant the last one

Main Entry: 1cringe
Pronunciation: \ˈkrinj\
Function: intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s): cringed; cring·ing
Etymology: Middle English crengen; akin to Old English cringan to yield, Middle High German krank weak
Date: 13th century
1 : to draw in or contract one's muscles involuntarily (as from cold or pain)
2 : to shrink in fear or servility
3 : to behave in an excessively humble or servile way
4 : to recoil in distaste <Americans cringed…at the use of a term now regarded as a slur — William Safire>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cringe

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