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« on: Jul 01, 2010 08:08 PM »


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/38035229#38035229?from=en-us_msnhp&GT1=42007

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« Reply #1 on: Jul 02, 2010 04:25 AM »

Wow... I don't even know what to say.... For some reason it just seems so wrong  sigh
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 02, 2010 07:50 AM »

ws,

It's true there is a lot of stigma in India for couples without kids. I can see why ppl would go to these extremes. Young couples would do the same but apparently for her technology only caught up when she was 70!! and triplets!!! wow

There might be some moral issues here but the women who were discussing it just sounded stupid and offensive, not everyone is a wealthy (white) old woman living in American culture.
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 02, 2010 11:30 AM »

Salaam,

I saw a program about this woman and other post menapausal first-time mothers some weeks ago. I wasn't as disturbed as I thought I would be by the age. I was more intrigued by their reasons for doing for wanting to have kids at that age. One woman said she was not able to settle down until later in life because she opted to take care of her ill father until he passed away. She didn't regret that choice, but she still wanted to have a family. That type of sacrifice is different for a woman than for a man. Men at least have the option of marrying younger women.  oldshaykh  hijabisis

What struck me about the Indian couple was that they felt so overwhelmed by the pressure from their community that, when they said they "tried everything", that included black magic. Even after they had a girl, people were telling them it should have been a boy. (Just goes to show, you can't really please everybody). I was amazed when I heard the doctor say that the 70-yr-old woman was more fit for the procedure than her younger sister (whom the man also married in hopes of having a child).

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« Reply #4 on: Jul 02, 2010 04:18 PM »

salam

Did any of you read the follow up stories about older women having babies post menopause, the previous oldest mother is now dying, she's leaving behind a toddler. This is so wrong.

IVF as been around for 30 years, they should have had it done at an age a normal pregnancy would have been viable.

There's a reason women undergo the menopause and cannot continue to have children forever.



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« Reply #5 on: Jul 03, 2010 05:50 PM »

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Ok, so I tried watching this clip again without watching the commentary and instead of feeling slightly disturbed it made me sad...  What these poor elderly women will do to their bodies  just to be accepted by their society  Sad

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WOW so sad that she is dying and leaving behind her child, I am sure that weights heavily on her heart. Regardless of a woman's age I am sure she feels that maternal bond.. . Just so sad  Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 03, 2010 11:15 PM »

salam

Here's the story, I think it's awful to be honest.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1286412/Worlds-oldest-mother-Rajo-Devi-Lohan-reveals-dying.html


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« Reply #7 on: Jul 04, 2010 12:43 AM »

Thank you Sister Fozia for posting the follow up....   sigh
Kind of depressed now...
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 04, 2010 05:57 AM »

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It is sad for sure, but I think we're not taking into account the culture that's involved. Over there the whole extended family is a unit. If the mother dies there are still grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins etc. It's not like here where the child would revert to the state or something. I don't know I just feel bad for these women, I know what it's like over there it's really horrible being childless...and when finally the technology has arrived to help them I'm sure they feel it's a miracle and they're willing to take the high risks even to themselves...

I think the problem here is not with those women themselves, but the culture. Why are motherless women willing to risk even death for this. Why doesn't the culture accept women without children. Even that one husband divorced and married two other women to try to have a child. Aren't there other ways for people to give to have a legacy for the future besides sons. And so on... Huh?


(If we want to bring this to a more western discussion, what about those American women who are having multiple babies... ie 2-5... There's a story about sextuplets born to a British couple on the same page there but there's no controversy about that even though one has died already? Will they be able to provide for those children physically and emotionally? What about single women going to sperm banks and choosing to have a baby alone? Why are they also forcing their bodies into these peculiar situations to have children in this way...  Huh?)
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« Reply #9 on: Jul 06, 2010 06:46 AM »


I agree Jannah. I have seen only pieces of this in Desi-American culture and I have to say the stigmas and the family/community pressure can be really tough. If you are not married by a certain age, if you don't have a certain job/status, if you don't have kids immediately ... (sounds very Jane Austen  reader). To be fair, every culture comes with its own strengths and weaknesses. The purest way for us to overcome our cultural baggage is to become better Muslims and to make sure the next generation inherits the treasure and not the trash.

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