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« on: Nov 27, 2010 08:51 AM »


In PORTLAND - my home city!!  Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Thankfully, the bomb supplied to him by the undercover FBI agents was a fake, but to see this happening in my community is just very disheartening to say the least. There are a lot of Somalis in Portland. This just really really sucks - will let you know if the community leaders issue any statement or anything and will post it here if they do, as I get e-mails concerning the goings-on back home.

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1. From the BBC

US teenager held in Oregon over Christmas 'bomb plot'

Mr Mohamud is a naturalised US citizen



A teenager has been arrested in the US state of Oregon after allegedly plotting to carry out a car bomb attack at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony.

Somali-born Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, was arrested after reportedly making a telephone call he thought would set off the bomb in the centre of Portland.

However, the bomb was a fake supplied by agents in a sting operation.

Mr Mohamud is a naturalised US citizen who had allegedly been in contact with an associate in north-west Pakistan.

'Lot of children'
Mr Mohamud, who lives in the town of Corvallis, had driven a van to the ceremony and was arrested at around 1740 local time on Friday (0040 GMT Saturday), about 20 minutes before the tree lighting was to occur.

Prosecutors said Mr Mohamud had shouted "Allahu Akbar!" (God is great!) and tried to kick agents as they closed in.


Court documents said the case began in August 2009 with e-mail exchanges between Mr Mohamud and his alleged associate in Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province.

Special FBI agent Arthur Balizan said: "The threat was very real. Our investigation shows that Mohamud was absolutely committed to carrying out an attack on a very grand scale. I want to reassure the people of this community that, at every turn, we denied him the ability to actually carry out the attack."

The Oregonian newspaper quoted Oregon US Attorney Dwight Holton as saying: "This defendant's chilling determination is a stark reminder that there are people - even here in Oregon - who are determined to kill Americans."

He said there was "no reason to believe there is any continuing threat arising from this case".

An undercover agent had posed as an associate of the Pakistan contact and met Mr Mohamud to discuss the plan, the court papers said.

The agent informed Mr Mohamud there would be "a lot of children" at the ceremony but Mr Mohamud allegedly said he was looking for a "huge mass that will be attacked in their own element with their families celebrating the holidays".

Mr Mohamud allegedly told the FBI agent that he had been thinking of carrying out a jihad, or holy war, against infidels since the age of 15.

2. From our local newspaper
FBI thwarts terrorist bombing attempt at Portland holiday tree lighting, authorities say
Published: Friday, November 26, 2010, 10:09 PM     Updated: Friday, November 26, 2010, 11:04 PM
  Bryan Denson, The Oregonian


Torsten Kjellstrand / The Oregonian
The FBI thwarted a bomb plot at the tree lighting at Pioneer Courthouse Square on Friday night.
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The FBI thwarted an attempted terrorist bombing in Portland's Pioneer Courthouse Square before the city's annual tree-lighting Friday night, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Oregon.

A Corvallis man, thinking he was going to ignite a bomb, drove a van to the corner of the square at Southwest Yamhill Street and Sixth Avenue and attempted to detonate it.

However, the supposed explosive was a dummy that FBI operatives supplied to him, according to an affidavit in support of a criminal complaint signed Friday night by U.S. Magistrate Judge John V. Acosta.

Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, a Somali-born U.S. citizen, was arrested at 5:42 p.m., 18 minutes before the tree lighting was to occur, on an accusation of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction. The felony charge carries a maximum sentence of life in prison and a $250,000 fine.

The arrest was the culmination of a long-term undercover operation, during which Mohamud had been monitored for months as his alleged bomb plot developed.

"The device was in fact inert, and the public was never in danger," according to a news release from the U.S. Attorney's Office.

The investigation involved the FBI, Oregon State Police, Portland Police Bureau, Corvallis Police Department and Lincoln County Sheriff's Office.


Mohamed Osman Mohamud
Mohamud will appear in U.S. District Court in Portland on Monday.

"This defendant's chilling determination is a stark reminder that there are people -- even here in Oregon -- who are determined to kill Americans," said Oregon U.S. Attorney Dwight Holton. "The good work of law enforcement protected Oregonians in this case -- and we have no reason to believe there is any continuing threat arising from this case."

According to the FBI affidavit, the case began in August 2009 when Mohamud was in e-mail contact with an unindicted associate overseas who was believed to be involved in terrorist activities. In December 2009, while the unindicted associate was in a frontier province of Pakistan, Mohamud and the associate discussed the possibility of Mohamud traveling to Pakistan to participate in violent jihad.

The associate allegedly referred Mohamud to a second associate overseas and provided him with a name and e-mail address. In the months that followed, Mohamud made several unsuccessful attempts to contact the second associate.

Ultimately, an FBI undercover operative contacted Mohamud in a June 2010 e-mail under the guise of being an associate of the first unindicted associate.

Mohamud and the FBI operative agreed to meet in Portland a month later. Mohamud allegedly told the FBI operative that he had written articles that were published in Jihad Recollections, an online magazine that advocated holy war.

Mohamud also indicated he intended to become "operational," meaning he wanted to put an explosion together but needed help. The two met again in August 2010 in a Portland hotel.

"During this meeting, Mohamud explained how he had been thinking of committing some form of violent jihad since the age of 15," the affidavit says. "Mohamud then told (the FBI operatives) that he had identified a potential target for a bomb: the Christmas tree-lighting ceremony in Portland's Pioneer Courthouse Square on Nov. 26, 2010."

The FBI operatives cautioned Mohamud several times about the seriousness of his plan, noting that there would be many people, including children, at the event, and that Mohamud could abandon his plans at any time with no shame.

"You know there's going to be a lot of children there?" an FBI operative asked Mohamud. "You know there are gonna be a lot of children there?"

Mohamud allegedly responded he was looking for a "huge mass that will ... be attacked in their own element with their families celebrating the holidays."

Mohamud dismissed concerns about law enforcement, explaining that, " ... It's in Oregon; and Oregon, like, you know, nobody ever thinks about," according to the affidavit.

"The threat was very real," said Oregon's FBI Special Agent in Charge Arthur Balizan. "Our investigation shows that Mohamud was absolutely committed to carrying out an attack on a very grand scale. At the same time, I want to reassure the people of this community that, every turn, we denied him the ability to actually carry out the attack."

Mohamud maintained his interest in carrying out the attack and spent months working on logistics.

He allegedly identified a location to place the bomb and mailed bomb components to the FBI operatives, who he believed were assembling the device. He also mailed them passport photos so he could sneak out of the country after the attack, according to the affidavit.

He provided the FBI operatives with a thumbdrive that contained detailed directions to the bomb location and operational instructions for the attack.

On Nov. 4, Mohamud and the FBI operatives traveled to a remote spot in Lincoln County, where they detonated a bomb concealed in a backpack as a trial run for the upcoming attack.

On the drive back to Corvalis, FBI operatives quizzed Mohamud about whether he was capable of looking at the bodies of those who would be killed in his planned Portland attack.

"I want whoever is attending that event to leave, to leave either dead or injured," Mohamud reportedly told the FBI operatives, the affidavit says.

Later that day, Mohamud recorded a video of himself with the FBI operatives in which he read a written statement offering his reasons for the planned Portland bombing.

On Nov. 18, FBI operatives picked up Mohamud to travel to Portland, where they would finalize details of the attack.

David S. Kris, assistant U.S. attorney general for national security, said, "The complaint alleges that Mohamud attempted to detonate what he believes to be a vehicle bomb at a crowded holiday event in downtown Portland, but a coordinated undercover law enforcement action was able to thwart his efforts and ensure no one was harmed. "

-- Bryan Denson

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« Reply #1 on: Nov 27, 2010 09:11 AM »


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Prosecutors said Mr Mohamud had shouted "Allahu Akbar!" (God is great!) and tried to kick agents as they closed in.

Really?  A Muslim terrorist would really do that? How stupid do they think we are? (Rhetorical cuz most Americans are stupid about Islam. They really know nothing except propaganda like this.) That doesn't make any sense. Ridiculous. So fake. I really don't believe all these stories about "stings". Where they supposedly get someone to do something with undercover agents and then "catch them in the act" and have him arrested and then have full blown live press conferences where they pat themselves on the back saying they caught a terrorist!!! "Yes we're keeping America safe!" Yeah right.

The facts in these cases never add up. They usually take things here and there and try putting it together to make someone out to be a terrorist. In all these cases there are huge problems with the "evidence" involved. Translations are wrong, the agent's wire falls off at a crucial moment, the person is tricked into saying a normal statement which will then be twisted to be used against them. And there's usually one or two statements highlighted without context to prejudice everyone on how this person is a violent terrorist, such as the quote above about him "not caring if there were lots of children there" released to the media.  There's also the point that this kid and others would have done nothing over their whole life, but because there was an agent provoking and manipulating him and many times outright faking the evidence to avoid their own jail sentences/andor for money they end up making up a case.

Unfortunately we live in a time where manufactured falsehood reigns as truth and truth will never be known.
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 27, 2010 09:36 AM »

I do agree with you on that we don't know the full-story and what story do we get is twisted, but I guess in terms of making sure that in any case, the local community doesn't condone such action is my concern. This is whether or not they I've done anything - the fact they got caught up in it at all, though I know the FBI can push people to saying something, but again, why was he even in that state of mind??

I know you have more wisdom when it comes to such things Sis J, but in general this entire issue just frustrates me, that there is even a news article about it.

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« Reply #3 on: Nov 27, 2010 10:07 AM »

A person looking at that article would come to the conclusion that this kid is a terrorist. Yet, there have been so many cases like this where the person is innocent (or guilty of just being naive/stupid or making mistakes) across the US. They are not terrorists.

Project Salam has a database of them with all the details of each case. To an outsider, even a Muslim, reading the story in the newspapers you only get the side the FBI wants you to hear, snippets of sensational information, that makes them look like heroes. (and that our millions of dollars in homeland security was worth it) ie "LOOK WE CAUGHT A TERRORIST!" But if you look into the details of all these cases you notice the cracks and outright lies they are selling us. (Who reads about the story on page B13, 6 months later that brings to light other information in the case that contradicts the original story.)

I'll give you some examples that I know of:

-Agent in the guise of wealthy pakistani businessman talks a poor pizzaman brother in islam with 6 kids into taking a loan from him as a form of business. Then says, "Oh just pay me back 45k instead of the whole 50k, the 5k is my gift to you". The pizzaman takes it and this becomes a whole full fledged money laundering, supporting terrorists with stinger missiles case!!

-FBI says they found secret documents at an Iraqi insurgent base they raided with a jihadi commander's name and number, a person in the US who is head of a "sleeper cell". Terrorist right? Turns out the FBI mistranslated the word "commander", it was actually "brother!" Also the address was 5 years old and the number was wrong. Also the "commander" had relatives all over Iraq and also not released was information that the the rest of the notebook had various famous and non-famous people all around the world as a list of "NRI" type ppl to ask for help and lastly this "iraqi insurgent base" was also used as a relief camp by the US! All this would have never come out except that the judge ruled this one classified evidence information to be released, although he kept tons others as "classified evidence" that no one got to see. Who knows what other fake evidence they used.

-A woman is asked "Do you know X(some famous guy in her country)?" She says "No". They then find out she once cooked at a dinner where he and other dignitaries ate. She is charged with lying to federal officers and associating with known terrorists!


In the times we live in, they need to manufacture an enemy and as they build up this enemy they need to prove that they are keeping us safe and are foiling and catching these terrorists. The amount of money and power changing hands in this is enormous. Those who are "catching terrorists" are benefiting from catching terrorists, whether they be real terrorists or not.

So really don't believe anything you read. It's usually lies.
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 27, 2010 12:08 PM »

Salaams again Sis J - Thanks for the info.

It is this very issue, that later on the truth comes forth, that there is no real case against these people, yet, it goes unnoticed when it comes out months later. Yes, it is clear that the US govt will do anything to maintain the image or impression that they are doing something productive with the tex-payers $$$. Like with the Times Sq. dude, this just doesn't help the overall picture -as you say, most of our fellow Americans are ignorant about what is really going and the motivations behind it all.

As far as our local situation goes, we have already had the Portland 7 some years back that I think I've mentioned somewhere eon the board before.

Even some of the comments on the newspaper website realized that this guy was not a threat and even the reporting as you pointed out, sounds so silly too - but of course, it is complex enough for simpletons to fall for it - the fear-mongering continues . . .


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« Reply #5 on: Nov 27, 2010 03:55 PM »

Asalam alaikum

Ya Allah...so disheartening to awaken to read this. I agree WCoastbaba, it really sucks and when its close to home all the local media is also right on it - radio talk shows, community is talking about it for YEARS and Muslims, especially Muslims that resemble the accused - are affected by the severity of the allegations.

Sr jannah, I have seen that happen here too in Toronto and it is was terrible - a sister had a bunch of guys dressed in black bust down her door to her horror pointed guns at her and the children (she was alone with her children (she was changing the darn baby at the time) and she reacted by picking up the screaming baby they screamed at her to get down on the floor and for everyone to shut up.

They charged her husband (who was at work) with terrorism and she ended up all over the media for years. Years later, the police and canadian version of the fbi found nothing to sentence him with. But he spent years in jail, the more his wife advocated for his innocence, the more the media made a spectacle out of her with tmz-like photos of her taking her children to school, etc. As her friend and sister in Islam it was heartbreaking - my first reaction is to reach out and try to be there for her, until you I was contacted by agent  So'n'so asking about my relationship with the wife of the accused...obviously with the media because anyone with authority would be knocking loudly at my door.

Most of all,  her children had to go through their father being violently taken away, their mother being left to survive and provide for her children, and the anger towards authority, society and the media - the laws failed them and did not protect them - society blames them - media consumed them - until they were spit out and left for old news because dropped charges (and no evidence) isn't a breaking news story. The 'takedown' is what media wants to cover - its what authorities want covered - not the 'charges were dismissed' outcome.

Allah knows best and may he protect those wrongfully accused and bring those who truly cause harm to justice, ameen.

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« Reply #6 on: Nov 27, 2010 04:42 PM »

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This whole terrorist crap is trotted out each time the politicians want to trample over our rights in peace.


Drum up a dramatic terorist story, where the police/FBI whoever sav the planet by foiling those evil geniuses, and whilst the media are whipping up a feeding frenzy, and neighbours are busy making the muslim next doors life hell, the politicians slip threo laws they never would have hte gall too under the full scrutiny of their respective jurisdictions.


Please note, under circumstances where real terrorists are actually in action, the FBI/CIA/Scotland yard are about as useful as a big giant chocolate teapot. These guys have proved over and over again they couldn't foil a sunday dinner.....



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« Reply #7 on: Nov 28, 2010 08:05 AM »

Sr. Fozia - thanks for your input - I do agree and in this case especially I think there is a sense of something fishy going on and yes, I think we have learned that the FBI isn't really all that useful - I was thinking to myself last night, when it mattered most to the safely of the American people, they FAILED - 9/11 anybody? Regardless of what you believe about that event, 1000's of people died that day, and we know that the intelligence community didn't do anything to stop those, yet with these small town people, they think they have had a major victory. The American people should ask why they couldn't stop such a large attack - are  they trying to make up for that by making these small arrests that don't even turn out to be that big a deal (though each person's life is ruined with life in jail).

Anyways, as promised, my community's response:


 
Press Release - Local Muslim and Arab Organizations Join Together to Respond to Alleged Attempted Terror Attack


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 
Who: Muslim American and Arab American leaders of Oregon and SW Washington
 
What: To speak about the alleged attempted terror attack on the Portland tree lighting at Pioneer Court House Square and to condemn in the strongest terms any planned attack on innocent people.
 
When: Tonight, November 27 2010 at 5:00 p.m.
 
Where: Front steps of Portland City Hall, 1221 SW 4th Avenue, Portland Oregon.
 
For more information or to schedule an interview, please call Jesse Day: 971-570-5747.

 

 


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« Reply #8 on: Nov 28, 2010 08:09 AM »

There is some video of the event/response from the community leaders(mosque in bold is the one I attend):

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Local-Muslim-leaders-decry-terror-plot-110926484.html (The man 2nd from left in the back is my old Arabic school teacher and president of the Islamic school, where there is a scholarship in my late father's name - just wanted to point that out on a personal note, though I know this isn't the appropriate time/place, but just wanted to share it with you)

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Posted on November 27, 2010 at 10:40 PM
Updated yesterday at 11:36 PM


PORTLAND, Ore - Leaders from the local Muslim community spoke out Saturday against the Pioneer Square bomb plot. They said they want the city of Portland and the world to know they “stand for peace, not violence.”
“We condemn the alleged actions that were thwarted last night,” said Mikal H. Shabazz of the Muslim Community Center of Portland
Muslim leaders called Mohamud an "outlier," someone they'd never heard of within their tight-knit community. Investigators say Mohamud, who called himself a Muslim, acted alone.
“He's not alone, but that is the exact type of mentality that we are trying to stand against, Christian, Muslim, Jew, and reasonable people, globally,” said Shahriar Ahmed of the Bilal Mosque of Beaverton.
Mikal Shabazz and Shahriar Ahmed, who represent the Council of Arab and Muslim leaders of Oregon and Southwest Washington, praised federal authorities for stopping the alleged bomb plot.
They also expressed gratitude for Portland police, who've increased patrols around local mosques in the wake of Friday’s attempted attack.
“We have been receiving emails on the web saying we're terrorists and we should be taken care of and so on and so forth,” said Shahriar Ahmed of the Bilal Mosque of Beaverton.
Ahmed said he took what happened Friday night personally, not only as a Muslim but also as a father. His own daughter was among the thousands at Pioneer Courthouse Square for the tree lighting.
“God forbid this would have happened. She would have been dead,” said Ahmed.

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« Reply #9 on: Nov 28, 2010 09:03 PM »

New info comes out everyday but too late now that they got the headline "FBI thwarts Terrorist" or "Terrorist was going to blow up children!". And the most important meeting was NOT RECORDED due to technical difficulties.Where have we heard this before? Why is it the FBI just can't seem to record the most important meetings during these "terrorist" plots?


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The FBI successfully thwarts its own Terrorist plot
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The FBI successfully thwarts its own Terrorist plot
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Mohamed Osman Mohamud, in an image released Nov. 27.

The FBI is obviously quite pleased with itself over its arrest of a 19-year-old Somali-American, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, who -- with months of encouragement, support and money from the FBI's own undercover agents -- allegedly attempted to detonate a bomb at a crowded Christmas event in Portland, Oregon.  Media accounts are almost uniformly trumpeting this event exactly as the FBI describes it.  Loyalists of both parties are doing the same, with Democratic Party commentators proclaiming that this proves how great and effective Democrats are at stopping The Evil Terrorists, while right-wing polemicists point to this arrest as yet more proof that those menacing Muslims sure are violent and dangerous.

What's missing from all of these celebrations is an iota of questioning or skepticism.  All of the information about this episode -- all of it -- comes exclusively from an FBI affidavit filed in connection with a Criminal Complaint against Mohamud.  As shocking and upsetting as this may be to some, FBI claims are sometimes one-sided, unreliable and even untrue, especially when such claims -- as here -- are uncorroborated and unexamined.  That's why we have what we call "trials" before assuming guilt or even before believing that we know what happened:  because the government doesn't always tell the complete truth, because they often skew reality, because things often look much different once the accused is permitted to present his own facts and subject the government's claims to scrutiny.  The FBI affidavit -- as well as whatever its agents are whispering into the ears of reporters -- contains only those facts the FBI chose to include, but omits the ones it chose to exclude.  And even the "facts" that are included are merely assertions at this point and thus may not be facts at all.


It may very well be that the FBI successfully and within legal limits arrested a dangerous criminal intent on carrying out a serious Terrorist plot that would have killed many innocent people, in which case they deserve praise.  Court-approved surveillance and use of undercover agents to infiltrate terrorist plots are legitimate tactics when used in accordance with the law.

But it may also just as easily be the case that the FBI -- as they've done many times in the past -- found some very young, impressionable, disaffected, hapless, aimless, inept loner; created a plot it then persuaded/manipulated/entrapped him to join, essentially turning him into a Terrorist; and then patted itself on the back once it arrested him for having thwarted a "Terrorist plot" which, from start to finish, was entirely the FBI's own concoction.  Having stopped a plot which it itself manufactured, the FBI then publicly touts -- and an uncritical media amplifies -- its "success" to the world, thus proving both that domestic Terrorism from Muslims is a serious threat and the Government's vast surveillance powers -- current and future new ones -- are necessary.

There are numerous claims here that merit further scrutiny and questioning.  First, the FBI was monitoring the email communications of this American citizen on U.S. soil for months (at least) with what appears to be the flimsiest basis: namely, that he was in email communication with someone in Northwest Pakistan, "an area known to harbor terrorists" (para. 5 of the FBI Affidavit).  Is that enough to obtain court approval to eavesdrop on someone's calls and emails?  I'm glad the FBI is only eavesdropping with court approval, if that's true, but certainly more should be required for judicial authorization than that.  Communicating with someone in Northwest Pakistan is hardly reasonable grounds for suspicion.

Second, in order not to be found to have entrapped someone into committing a crime, law enforcement agents want to be able to prove that, in the 1992 words of the Supreme Court, the accused was "was independently predisposed to commit the crime for which he was arrested."  To prove that, undercover agents are often careful to stress that the accused has multiple choices, and they then induce him into choosing with his own volition to commit the crime.  In this case, that was achieved by the undercover FBI agent's allegedly advising Mohamud that there were at least five ways he could serve the cause of Islam (including by praying, studying engineering, raising funds to send overseas, or becoming "operational"), and Mohamud replied he wanted to "be operational" by using exploding a bomb (para. 35-37).

But strangely, while all other conversations with Mohamud which the FBI summarizes were (according to the affidavit) recorded by numerous recording devices, this conversation -- the crucial one for negating Mohamud's entrapment defense -- was not.  That's because, according to the FBI, the undercover agent "was equipped with audio equipment to record the meeting.  However, due to technical problems, the meeting was not recorded" (para. 37).


Thus, we have only the FBI's word, and only its version, for what was said during this crucial -- potentially dispositive -- conversation.  Also strangely:  the original New York Times article on this story described this conversation at some length and reported the fact that "that meeting was not recorded due to a technical difficulty," but the final version omitted that, instead simply repeating the FBI's story as though it were fact:  "undercover agents in Mr. Mohamud’s case offered him several nonfatal ways to serve his cause, including mere prayer. But he told the agents he wanted to be 'operational,' and perhaps execute a car bombing."

Third, there are ample facts that call into question whether Mohamud's actions were driven by the FBI's manipulation and pressure rather than his own predisposition to commit a crime.  In June, he attempted to fly to Alaska in order to work on a fishing job he obtained through a friend, but he was on the Government's no-fly list.  That caused the FBI to question him at the airport and then bar him from flying to Alaska, and thus prevented him from earning income with this job (para. 25).  Having prevented him from working, the money the FBI then pumped him with -- including almost $3,000 in cash for him to rent his own apartment (para. 61) -- surely helped make him receptive to their suggestions and influence.  And every other step taken to perpetrate this plot -- from planning its placement to assembling the materials to constructing the bomb -- was all done at the FBI's behest and with its indispensable support and direction. 

It's impossible to conceive of Mohamud having achieved anything on his own.  Before being ensnared by the FBI, the only tangible action he had taken was to write three articles on "fitness and jihad" for the online magazine Jihad Recollections.  At least based on what is known, he had no history of violence, no apparent criminal record, had never been to a training camp in Afghanistan, Pakistan or anywhere else, and -- before meeting the FBI -- had never taken a single step toward harming anyone.  Does that sound like some menacing sleeper Terrorist to you?

Finally, there is, as usual, no discussion whatsoever in media accounts of motive.  There are several statements attributed to Mohamud by the Affidavit that should be repellent to any decent person, including complete apathy -- even delight -- at the prospect that this bomb would kill innocent people, including children.  What would drive a 19-year-old American citizen -- living in the U.S. since the age of 3 -- to that level of sociopathic indifference?   He explained it himself in several passages quoted by the FBI, and -- if it weren't for the virtual media blackout of this issue -- this line of reasoning would be extremely familiar to Americans by now (para. 45):

    Undercover FBI Agent:  You know there's gonna be a lot of children there?

    Mohamud:  Yeah, I know, that's what I'm looking for.

    Undercover FBI Agent:  For kids?

    Mohamud:  No, just for, in general a huge mass that will, like for them you know to be attacked in their own element with their families celebrating the holidays.  And then for later to be saying, this was them for you to refrain from killing our children, women . . . . so when they hear all these families were killed in such a city, they'll say you know what your actions, you know they will stop, you know.  And it's not fair that they should do that to people and not feeling it.

And here's what he allegedly said in a video he made shortly before he thought he would be detonating the bomb (para. 80):

We hear the same exact thing over and over and over from accused Terrorists -- that they are attempting to carry about plots in retaliation for past and ongoing American violence against Muslim civilians and to deter such future acts.  Here we find one of the great mysteries in American political culture:  that the U.S. Government dispatches its military all over the world -- invading, occupying, and bombing multiple Muslim countries -- torturing them, imprisoning them without charges, shooting them up at checkpoints, sending remote-controlled drones to explode their homes, imposing sanctions that starve hundreds of thousands of children to death  -- and Americans are then baffled when some Muslims -- an amazingly small percentage -- harbor anger and vengeance at them and want to return the violence.   And here we also find the greatest myth in American political discourse:  that engaging in all of that military aggression somehow constitutes Staying Safe and combating Terrorism -- rather than doing more than any single other cause to provoke, sustain and fuel Terrorism.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 28, 2010 09:19 PM »

Wow . . well, I guess you were right again Sis J  Smiley I didn't doubt you, but I guess it just gets me upset that these young kids get trapped into these things. I mean, there are other things that he should have been doing - maybe going to college classes???

BREAKING: The mosque in Corvallis was attacked: http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wxel/news.newsmain/article/0/0/1730608/National/Oregon.mosque.hit.by.arson.2.days.after.bomb.sting

It's true though, these FBI cases are just for show, as the public is mostly ignorant . . . . gosh, I am just really feeling confused, angry and sad right now, with this news of the attack . .  Sad Huh?

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« Reply #11 on: Nov 28, 2010 09:27 PM »

Portland mayor and police chief discuss return to Joint Terrorism Task force:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/portland_mayor_police_chief_di.html
 

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« Reply #12 on: Nov 29, 2010 05:30 AM »

I read about the arson attack on the mosque there this morning. Sad, very sad Sad This kid obviously made some big mistakes being so naive. I feel like I should make my Dear terrorist letter required reading for getting on this site, just to get the word out. What is wrong with people!! Ugh. I hope they do catch the person who set the fire. Every mosque needs to have surveillance and security now unfortunately Sad

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« Reply #13 on: Nov 29, 2010 12:22 PM »

I read about the arson attack on the mosque there this morning. Sad, very sad Sad This kid obviously made some big mistakes being so naive. I feel like I should make my Dear terrorist letter required reading for getting on this site, just to get the word out. What is wrong with people!! Ugh. I hope they do catch the person who set the fire. Every mosque needs to have surveillance and security now unfortunately Sad

Wcoastbaba and others must be heartbroken over all this. InshaAllah things will get better and the ppl there can use it as an opportunity for dawah.




Thanks so much Sis Jannah. As you probably know, Oregon is quite a liberal state, but now with these recent events, I've seen the comments on the articles on the homepage (that I linked to in the previous post) there are a lot of negative views, with only a few that see it as the FBI's doing. Many are saying that profiling should be the policy and whether or not he was that serious or not, it's better to have these guys put away, because with time, they say, he would have gotten his hands on something without the FBI's help.

I think it is going to be an interesting time for our local community. I am actually glad I will be back for the long-run soon insha'allah - though I will be busy with my future plans, I just feel that maybe, in my own small way, along with those in my age-group, can somehow make a difference. I always bring up these issues when I go over to my neighbors house  and they are always very understanding and open and actually quite supportive. (they even have kept a letter to the editor (posted it on their fridge door) I wrote that was published, when I said the brutal killings committing in Iraq early on should stop and that taking Allah's name in these killings was not Islamic, especially around the time Zarqawi was still running wild there - I had mentioned him and said something quite dark, but they edited that part out . . )

We have been tested before, with the Portland 7 case, but that really hadn't gone as far as this (though I had met one of them, which I think I've mentioned before) and also a lawyer was mistakenly ID-ed as having taken part in the Madrid bombings, but after a long period, was acquitted and won $2 million from the US Govt. after he sued them, as he had lost a of clients, as the thumb-printing machine had misanalysed the prints found at the scene - not to mention he had not been to Spain!)


Anyways, do keep us in your du'a in the coming weeks for sure. When I get back, will surely keep you up-to-date if I get the chance to be involved in anything specific or even just our regular meetings/gatherings.

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« Reply #14 on: Nov 29, 2010 10:07 PM »

This might cheer u up bro. There are lots of good ppl everywhere  bebzi

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Corvallis community showers mosque with support

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The Corvallis religious community responded to the arson incident at the Salman Alfarisi Islamic Center, Mon., Nov. 29, 2010, in Corvallis, Ore. by displaying flowers near the front door. Anger over a Somali-born teen's failed plan to blow up a van full of explosives during Portland's Christmas tree lighting ceremony apparently erupted in arson on Sunday when a fire damaged the Islamic center once frequented by the suspect. Police don't know who started the blaze or exactly why, but they believe the mosque was targeted because terror suspect Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, occasionally worshipped there.

After the early Sunday morning arson at Masjid Salaam al-Farisi, a national media frenzy and FBI investigation had descended upon the usually quiet college town. But by Monday morning, things were calming down.

The mosque was still a frenzy of activity though -- there was a strong media presence, but the parking lot in front of the charred prayer center on Northwest Kings Boulevard was mostly filling with community members and Corvallis religious leaders who had united to offer prayers and support against the "abhorrent" act of arson.

"This shouldn't happen here -- it shouldn't happen anywhere -- but Corvallis is a wonderful, open community," said Laurie Holst as she stopped by the mosque to drop off a potted plant and card. The gifts were part of a growing donation from the community -- a growing cluster of poinsettias, bouquets and cards were gathered in front of the men's entrance to the mosque.

Holst has lived here for more than 25 years. She went to school at Oregon State University and now works there as an adviser for students in natural resources.

"This is as abhorrent as what happened in Portland -- this is just wrong, it shouldn't happen anywhere or here," Holst said, fighting back tears. "I want these folks that worship here to know that this is not Corvallis... it's some redneck idiot."

Late morning sun streamed through clouds in the mosque's parking lot. For Mohamed Siala, the director of the mosque, the overwhelming support from Corvallis people served as a silver lining.

"This is how the community in Corvallis is here," he said as he spoke with Benjamin Barnett, rabbi at Beit Am, a local synagogue. "We want you to pray for us and use this opportunity to get closer to each other."

"Mohamed is a good friend, we're always trying to do more together," Barnett said. Members of his synagogue are meeting tonight to discuss what they can do to best offer support -- fundraising probably won't be necessary, since the damage will be covered by insurance.

"The main thing we want to do is show solidarity. The news should be that the majority of us want to stand side by side."
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 29, 2010 10:11 PM »

Awesome Sr. Jannah  Smiley Smiley Smiley

That's sad I didn't see it first, as I usually check in with the OL website.


The boy was indicted today in court, as you probably already saw.


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« Reply #16 on: Nov 29, 2010 11:13 PM »

I found this interview on CNN just reflects my feelings in how frustrating and sad this is for us and the larger community of course - and I still find it so scary that a parking lot that I'm so familiar with (as we would sometimes stop by, before we had the key to the graveyard gate) that has the yellow crime scene tape around it.

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2010/11/28/int.gutierrez.or.imam.cnn

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« Reply #17 on: Nov 30, 2010 04:48 AM »

Troubled youths are one of our greatest liabilities.

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« Reply #18 on: Nov 30, 2010 01:17 PM »

Troubled youths are one of our greatest liabilities.


Very true.

Just saw this from Twitter, from the SF-CAIR rep that I follow (Sr. Zahra Billoo) among others in the Bay Area think that this case is one of FBI entrapment:

http://www.ktvu.com/video/25955864/index.html

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« Reply #19 on: Nov 30, 2010 03:23 PM »

Suspect in Oregon Bomb Plot Is Called Confused



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The Salman Al-Farisi Islamic Center in Corvallis, Ore., which Mr. Mohamud attended while at college, was the target of a firebomb Sunday.

By JESSE McKINLEY and WILLIAM YARDLEY
Published: November 28, 2010

 
CORVALLIS, Ore. — Mohamed Osman Mohamud had seemed to be a well-adjusted American teenager: a solid student whose interests included basketball, girls and the night life at Oregon State University, where he studied engineering.

Yosof Wanly, the imam at the center, talking with reporters.
But those who know him say he changed in recent months. He dropped out of school and stopped attending mosque. And, perhaps most telling, he began lying about his plans for the future.

“He seemed to be in a state of confusion,” said Yosof Wanly, the imam at the Salman Al-Farisi Islamic Center in Corvallis, which Mr. Mohamud attended while at college. “He would say things that weren’t true. ‘I’m going to go get married,’ for example. But he wasn’t getting married.”

A possible explanation for his erratic behavior came as Mr. Mohamud, a 19-year-old naturalized American citizen from Somalia, was arrested Friday by federal agents and charged with plotting to set off a bomb at a Christmas-tree-lighting ceremony in downtown Portland.

The device the authorities say Mr. Mohamud sought to detonate was a fake bomb supplied by Federal Bureau of Investigation agents who had orchestrated a sting operation. But the effect of the planned attack was still felt Sunday, including at the Islamic center here, which was the target of a firebomb early in the day.

No one was injured, but federal agents were here later in the day, investigating a possible link to Mr. Mohamud’s arrest, even as Mr. Wanly tried to calm his mosque members’ nerves.

Mr. Mohamud is scheduled to appear in federal court in Portland on Monday on a charge of attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction.

Many questions remain about the extent of Mr. Mohamud’s connections to Islamic extremists, whom investigators say he wrote to and plotted with, as well as about the apparent contradictions in his personal life, as a studious, friendly teenager and a young man seeking to wage jihad within his adopted country.

“When you think of someone doing what he did, you think of some crazy kind of guy,” said Mohamed Kassim, 21, a fellow Oregon State student who knew Mr. Mohamud from around campus. “He wasn’t like that. He was just like everybody else.”

Many Muslims in Oregon worried that they would face a backlash. And on Sunday, local Muslim leaders emphasized that the case was an isolated incident.

“If this kid’s being radicalized, it’s not from the locals,” said Jesse Day, a spokesman for the Islamic Center of Portland and Masjed As-Saber, where Mr. Mohamud sometimes worshiped.

The president of the center, Imtiaz Khan, shared that concern, and said in an interview that he worried that the mosque and Islam in general would be portrayed unfairly because of the arrest. On Sunday morning, a Portland police car was parked outside the mosque.

“We have women and children here that we want to protect,” Mr. Khan said.

But a sense of suspicion and worry prevailed.

Mr. Khan and Mr. Day said several people who worship at the mosque said that F.B.I. agents had knocked on their doors late at night on the day of Mr. Mohamud’s arrest, but that none had agreed to speak to the agents.

“People were finding cards in the doors that said F.B.I.,” Mr. Day said.

The mosque, the largest in Portland, has been at the center of controversy before. In 2002, the mosque’s imam, Sheik Mohamed Abdirahman Kariye, also a naturalized American citizen from Somalia, was arrested at Portland International Airport.

Prosecutors said that trace elements of TNT were found in his luggage, though those tests were later said to be inconclusive and he was not convicted of any crime.

Mr. Kariye did not immediately respond to a request for comment made through Mr. Day, but Mr. Khan repeated that Mr. Mohamud’s actions were his own.

“Whatever this event is, it has nothing to do with the mosque,” Mr. Khan said.

Mr. Mohamud, his younger sister and their parents had long lived in the Portland area, including in Beaverton, a suburb that has a small Somali population.

Mr. Mohamud’s family fled Somalia in the early 1990s, and his father, Osman Barre, a well-educated engineer, worked to establish them in Oregon.

“Osman was very sophisticated,” said Chris Oace, a former refugee worker for Ecumenical Ministries of Oregon who helped the family resettle here in the early 1990s. “Some refugees are afraid of having Christian churches help them. But it wasn’t an issue with his family at all.”

Stephanie Napier, a former neighbor, said that the family had been quiet but friendly and that Mr. Mohamud’s mother was fiercely proud of her only son.

“He seemed like a great kid,” she said. “His mother spoke very highly of him. He always did what he was told and got great grades.”

At some point over the last year or so, however, Mr. Mohamud’s parents separated, and tensions grew in the family.

A friend of the family said Mr. Barre, who eventually became an engineer for Intel, could be temperamental.

Several people who said they knew Mr. Mohamud’s family said they believed that his parents had reported him to law enforcement authorities, citing concerns that his views were becoming extreme. Those people refused to be quoted by name.

A law enforcement official, who was not authorized to publicly discuss certain aspects of the case, said investigators first became aware of Mr. Mohamud because of what the official said were his efforts to connect with Islamic extremists through e-mail.

Soon after that they received information from Mr. Mohamud’s father, alerting them to what the official described as increased radicalization. According to the federal affidavit for his arrest, Mr. Mohamud at one point wrote in an e-mail that he felt “betrayed” by his family.

Law enforcement officials also confirmed that his parents had marital problems, but said they were irrelevant to the investigation.

Family members could not be reached for comment.

Cawo Abdi, a professor of sociology at the University of Minnesota who studies Somali youth, said some young Somali men in the United States struggle to find a sense of belonging.

“They are trying to find somewhere they can fit in,” Ms. Abdi said. “This has led some to join gangs, while others are lured by the Jihadist Web sites and YouTube videos on the Internet.”

But for those who knew Mr. Mohamud in Corvallis, a liberal college town whose engineering program draws a sizable number of international students, assimilation did not seem to be the problem.

Mr. Kassim, the Oregon State student, said that Mr. Mohamud seemed to be a normal student, playing basketball at the recreation center, talking about girls and obsessing about the Portland Trailblazers, his favorite team.

On Sunday, such trivial concerns had been replaced by more pressing issues.

Outside the Corvallis mosque, a steady stream of well-wishers — both Muslim and non-Muslim — arrived during the day. At the rear of the unmarked structure, a charred and broken window was boarded up. Mosque members said there had been extensive damage, including burned Korans, wedding and death certificates, and other items.

Mohamed Alyajouri, 31, who is married and has three children, said he was in shock when he heard of Mr. Mohamud’s arrest and was concerned about the effect on Muslims everywhere.

“This kid had friends here, went to school here,” Mr. Alyajouri said. “It’s so stupid. Nobody I know thinks that way. But we have to deal with this now.”
Jesse McKinley reported from Corvallis, Ore., and William Yardley from Portland, Ore. Reporting was contributed by Erik Eckholm from New York, Colin Miner and Amanda Waldroupe from Portland, and Malia Wollan from Sacramento.

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« Reply #20 on: Nov 30, 2010 04:07 PM »

Interesting.... so his father is the one that went to the FBI and the kid seemed to know that. Too bad he wasn't smart enough to realize that they were using his animosity towards his family and/or the world to further their plot. Why didn't his father go to the local Imam or other people to try to educate this kid?

I know in one case it was the informant that showed the kids youtube videos over and over again to groom them. [If you groom someone to be a terrorist, are they a terrorist?]

If anyone is in touch with the community there please tell them not to talk to the FBI including Mosque officials or if they have to for some reason to take a lawyer. Remember that 'do you know...' story, if she had a lawyer with her he would have said 'please clarify what is meant by "know"'. Lawyers know how to stop BS and entrapment, average ppl will just get caught even if they are innocent and have nothing to hide. Don't let them in your house either.

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« Reply #21 on: Nov 30, 2010 04:47 PM »

Salaam Sis J - Yeah, it certainly seems the FBI just used his feelings at the time to further pull him in that direction. He was clearly emotionally unstable and even if he didn't have access to dangerous explosives, the fact that someone offered it to him, one could assume he would do something like that - when he felt isolated. It is too bad no one tried to get those at the mosque involved, as the Imam in the video wished had happened. We have to communicate with these kids before certain "others" do - FBI or otherwise.

As for not talking to the FBI, I think that is pretty much understood within the community, even if they are not told, because we have all heard of other cases where problems arose. Of course, thanks for the advice Sis J.

Also, just wanted to mention, the Imam mentioned in the article that was arrested at the airport but was acquitted, is close to our family - in the sense that he was there as my father took his last breath and later, conducted the Nikaah of a beloved family friend whose Nikaah was performed at our house and one of the reasons he agreed to conduct it was because he heard it was my father's house . . . so yeah, we do have experience with not talking to the FBI as well as false accusations - I already mentioned the case of the falsely accused lawyer.

Lastly, just wanted to share this community press release that I received via e-mail:

Press Release - Local Muslim and Arab Organizations Ask City and State Authorities to Help Protect the Muslim and Arab Communities


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 
Tigard, OR - November 29 2010 - The Muslim American and Arab American leaders of Oregon and Southwest Washington are calling on the city and state authorities to setup protection for the region's Muslim American and Arab community after an intentionally-set fire damaged a mosque in Corvallis, Oregon.
 
Fire officials say the Sunday morning blaze damaged parts of the Salman Al-Farsi Islamic Center in Corvallis, Oregon.
 
"We are worried and saddened that the plot, and the response by a small number of extremists, have created a potentially dangerous situation in which innocent Muslim-Americans are exposed to retaliation," Imam Mikal Shabazz, President of the Oregon Islamic Chaplains Organization and a prominent Muslim leader in Portland, said on Sunday as he learned of the mosque fire.
 
"The bombing plot is reprehensible, and the harm will be magnified even further if it leads to violence, either physical or verbal, against Muslim members of our community who had nothing to do with the plot, and who stand with all Americans in rejecting terrorism,"  Shabazz said, adding that he had spoken with an African-American Muslim woman who was verbally attacked by a young man in Southeast Portland, before others intervened in her defense.
 
On Saturday, before any attack on the mosque, leaders of the local Muslim and Arab Organizations put out a statement condemning Friday's alleged actions. "We denounce this horrible plot in the strongest terms and repudiate all those who commit such acts of mindless violence in the name of Islam," the release said. "Islam is a religion of peace and these acts are not the legitimate acts of Muslims."
 
"Just as American Muslims and Arab Americans condemn any act that would threaten our nation's safety and security, we ask our fellow faith leaders, city and state political leaders, and people of good will to reject any attacks on American Arabs and Muslims or their religious or cultural institutions," said Wajdi Said, Muslim Educational Trust President.
 
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On behalf of the Shura Council of Oregon and Southwest Washington

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« Reply #22 on: Dec 01, 2010 08:22 PM »

There was a vigl held at the Corvallis mosque last night. Here is the video:

Corvallis Oregon - Islamic Center Candlelight Vigil Nov 30, 2010 - Daily Barometer


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In an act of solidarity, hundreds of community members gathered in front of the Salman Alfarisi Islamic Center, despite steady rainfall, for a candlelight vigil.

"[This is] truly a festival of lights," said Benjamin Barnett, rabbi at Beit Am synagogue.

Barnett said to the crowd, "Our Muslim brothers and sisters, all of you standing here right now, outside of your Holy Place, have been dealt a blow of darkness. And so for me, the question is, what's the light? What's the light in response? And I think I'm looking at it right now."

The event comes two days after a fire, believed to be arson, was set in the office of the Salman Alfarisi Islamic Center. The community leaders who spoke at the vigil rarely mentioned the fire, or the bomb plot at Portland's lighting ceremony.

None of the speakers mentioned the name Mohamed Mohamud, the 19 year old suspect arrested in the bomb plot. Mohamud plead not guilty during his arraignment in Portland on Monday, Nov. 29.

Two friends who attended the vigil, Qadeer Khan and Micah Houck, where not surprised at all by the overwhelming community support.

Houck, senior in chemical engineering, said "we came to the vigil to show that we are thankful -- thankful for Muslims. They add a lot to Corvallis, to OSU." Houck heard about both the arson and the vigil while at bible study.

Khan, a PhD student in electrical engineering, came to Corvallis in 2007 from India and found the Islamic Center to be a very welcoming place. "It's like a home for people from other countries," he said. Since coming to Corvallis Khan has been to the mosque almost daily.

Elizabeth Oettinger, senior minister of First Congregational United Church of Christ, said she fell into the role of organizer for the event.

"After I heard about the fire I started calling colleagues to ask 'what should we do'. We thought of a vigil." She laughed and said, "weather was not factored in."

"We wanted to surround [the mosque] with a different kind of fire. The night culminated with the crowd forming a human ring around the premises.

Oettinger emphasized how important "trust" is within the Corvallis community. "We want the Muslims in this community to know they are our neighbors and that we want them here."

"People are horrified and sad," Oettinger said and expressed her shock at the act of arson. However she is not surprised by the outpouring of "support and love."

Mohamed Siala, the director of the Salman Alfarisi Islamic Center, said "if we can do it here in this small city, it can be done anywhere in the world... We get here tonight to celebrate our togetherness."

Mayor Charles Tomlinson spoke to the crowd, "Corvallis is a family... This is the authentic Corvallis, and this is an authentic response to the events of the last four days."

"It makes me proud to be your mayor."

Laurie Childers spoke on behalf of Quakers, the Fellowship of Reconciliation, and "friends who know each other and call each other on the phone and said what can we do?"

She lead the crowd in a brief song and handed out flyers that read "Unity in the Community" and "Hate is not Welcome Here."

The rain lasted the entirety of the vigil, but the attendees relit their candles whenever when extinguished. Multiple news crews, including Fox News, KOIN, KATU, and the Associated Press attended the scene.

Siala said to the crowd, "Thank you very much, and may Allah bless you all; you are the greatest."

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« Reply #23 on: Dec 04, 2010 08:06 PM »

Interesting little article on what American Muslims have done to fight terrorism - any thoughts? Just wanted to mention, the first one listed - the "Portland &" is the one I mentioned earlier in the thread - that I had met one of these men at the time of my father's passing and also, later on at Jumu'ah salah - and he turned out to be the only one that didn't cooperate with the government and is thus spending life in prison without parole (if I recall correctly) whereas the others will get a chance at parole after 18 years.

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Terror Plots Foiled With The Assistance Of The American Muslim Community.


Ben Armbruster catches Rep. Peter King* of New York repeating the widely held fiction that American Muslims don't do anything to fight terrorism. Here's a list of terror plots that have been foiled with the assistance of the American Muslims drawn from the Muslim Public Affairs  Council's recent report on the subject:

October 2001: The conviction of “Portland 7” case was substantially helped after a local police officer encountered the suspects engaged in target practice. The police officer had been sent to the area after a local citizen notified police that he heard gunfire.

September 2002: Members of the “Lackawanna 6” are arrested. FBI first becomes aware of their activities in June 2001 when a local Muslim community member tips off the FBI.

March 2002: FBI become aware of a possible terror plot by Imran Mandhai (and later Shueyb Jokhan) after they are notified by an American Muslim named “Saif Allah” who attended Mandhai and Jokhan’s same mosque provides a tip.

June 2003: FBI receive two tips from community members notifying them “military-style training” was being conducted suspect by Ali Al-Tamimi. The tip set in motion an
investigation later leading to the arrest of the so-called “Paintball 11” in Northern Virginia.
August 2004: James Elshafay and Shahwar Matin Siraj are arrested largely based on the controversial use of an informant in the investigation. However, NYPD were first notified of Siraj after a Muslim community member anonymously notifies New York police about consistently troubling rhetoric coming from the suspect.

February 2006: Muslim community members in Ohio provide information helping to arrest and eventually convict 3 suspects planning attacks in Iraq.

July 2009: Mosque leaders in Raleigh, North Carolina, contact law enforcement to notify them of “violent, threatening action … considered to be dangerous” leading to the arrest of Daniel Boyd and 6 other individuals.

November 2009: Five Virginia Muslim youth are arrested in Pakistan, allegedly seeking to join a terror group, after family members told American federal authorities they went
missing.

April 2010: Senegalese Muslim Alioune Niass first spots the suspicious vehicle used as a bomb to attack Times Square in New York City. Clues from the vehicle and defused explosive immediately led to the suspect, Faisal Shahzad’s, arrest.

June 2010: Suspects Mohammed Mahmoud Alessa and Carlos Eduardo Almonte are arrested, after the FBI first receives an anonymous report in 2006 from one of the suspects’ family members. News reports indicate one of Alessa’s family members provided the tip.

Today we can add another one -- while Farooque Ahmed's recent alleged attempt to attack the subway system in Washington, D.C., seems to have been under the control of federal investigators from the beginning, Ahmed was initially brought to the attention of authorities by a "source in the Muslim community."

The MPAC report concludes that nearly a third of al-Qaeda-related homegrown terror plots since 9/11 have been foiled with the aid of the Muslim community. Saying American Muslims don't do anything to fight terrorism helps bolster the case for arbitrarily denying Muslims the same rights as everyone else, which would make it harder to establish the kind of relationships between law enforcement and American Muslims that lead to plots being foiled before they happen. There are ongoing questions about whether or not law enforcement has crossed the line with some of its sting operations -- but there shouldn't be any question that the American Muslim community has played an important role in protecting the country from terrorism.

Posted by Adam Serwer

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/adam_serwer_archive?month=10&year=2010&base_name=terror_plots_foiled_with_the_a

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