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« on: Nov 29, 2010 09:31 PM »


Has anyone gone through any of the cables. I wonder what other interesting tidbits are in there. So much of them are solely on the politics of the middle east. Very telling.

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Leaked Cables Offer Raw Look at U.S. Diplomacy (long article)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/29cables.html?_r=1&ref=world&pagewanted=all
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 29, 2010 10:39 PM »

Haven't gone through any of them, but just listened to news clips or read summaries of them on my favorite news site? Any guesses which site that is?  Wink Grin

But seriously, some good stuff, about what the US thinks of many of the European leaders that they have to deal with these days. (Merkel, Burlesconi, Sarcozy, etc).

Also, I was shocked, or maybe not, that some Arab states, want the US to take out Iran's nuclear plants out my any means, including military strikes. Yikes!

This is a strange and scary world we live in. It's kinda sad too - I know there is all the history that precedes us, but when it really comes down to it, we all want the same thing, but I guess that paths differ? I know I'm naive, but sometimes you just wish, in the words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"

Knowing how short life is, all this secrecy, fighting, lying, death, suffering, doesn't seem worth it. These last few years, as I've seen the world go down hill (sorry for the doom and gloom) I am SO THANKFUL, this life is only transient, temporary. Don't know why anyone would want to live forever - in this world at least! Shukr'Allah!

OK, sorry off topic, but thought this was a place to get it off my chest. My apologies.

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« Reply #2 on: Nov 30, 2010 12:53 AM »

I've been through a few.
The best of the best was this quote by Kind Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

Quote - King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia called President Asif Ali Zardari of Pakistan the greatest obstacle to that country’s progress. “When the head is rotten,” he said, “it affects the whole body.”

The most hilarious words ever spoken by a statesman Cheesy But,it's also true.

On the whole,I was expecting exactly this..yup..frankly speaking,I think that all the frenzy surrounding the so called "classified" material is unnecessary.Intuitively,we all know what goes on behind closed doors.Let alone the US,every country is concerned about its own national interests and will go to any lengths to achieve them.It's as simple as that.If someday WikiLeaks or any other organisation releases Indian or French material,I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's similar to what the American cables are like.
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 30, 2010 12:58 AM »

I just came across this on Sh.Yasir Qadhi's facebook page

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YasirQadhi: Wasn't it Jesus Christ who said that the truth shall set you free? Then why is our government so scared of the truth in Wikileaks?
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 30, 2010 07:35 AM »

Yes, that was a great quote. He tweeted that one too.

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« Reply #5 on: Nov 30, 2010 01:08 PM »

My only insight from these cables was about social systems.

Apparently,  when dealing with people in democracies, things that are hidden tend to be similar to what is in the open (because of the importance of accountability). When dealing with kingdoms, the hidden can differ from the open. I was really surprised to read that at least three countries were pushing the US to attack Iran. I'd come across rumours of these, but this was quite a revelation.

I was surprised to read a few things about the middle-eastern leader (who are mostly heading kingdoms or despotic regimes), and was not surprised about anything regarding Europe (except perhaps the links between the Italians and the Russian).
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