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« on: May 24, 2011 03:06 PM »


Asalaamu Alaikum bro


For those of you in the UK, you will be fully aware of the recent super injunction taken out by a married footballer to prevent the press reporting details of his alleged affair with a reality TV personality.


Once someone decided to post his name on Twitter, others followed and retweeted his identity and finally yesterday with over 75,000 people on Twitter having broken the super injunction, judges at the High Court finally conceded and lifted the injunction against the press.



Whilst there are many legal / social issues here, I wonder what we think about the more general question of privacy, Islam and the role of social media?


Should someone's private life (be they Muslim or not) be subject for public consumption or should it be a matter for the respective parties to sort out? What criteria should we be using here?



We are all aware of the moment in the seerah when Aisha (ra) was at the end of numerous allegations in respect of her behaviour and the reprimand the Muslims were given in respect of divulging and disclosing information which they could not ascertain the accuracy thereof.


If that incident took place now in our digital age, would the impact be greater or less?


By chance I was listening to a CD this morning where Sh Hamza Yusuf narrates a hadith that (and I'm paraphrasing here), 'at the end of time, a man will tell a lie and it would reach the four corners of the Earth'. He [Sh Hamza] personally believed this was a reference to the modern day internet where information can go 'viral' in a matter of hours.


As Muslims should we desist from simply forwarding emails on or retweeting information because of the inherent danger of not knowing the true facts behind something?



As ever, lots of questions and probably no easy answers but interested to see what everyone thinks.



All thoughts / views / opinions welcomed but no backbiting allowed Wink


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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2011 06:19 PM »

salam


What irritated me beyond belief about this whole super injunction thing was that the womans name was bandied about right from the beginning, so we all knew whatsherface from big brother had been at it with a married footballer, however the footballer was safe.....for about three seconds!


Privacy should be a given, but only if both parties agree to it.

Perhaps this whole sorry saga will act as a warning to other people thinking of cheating on their spouse. Giggs is a laughing stock and he spent millions getting there!

It's not a false allegation, it was made a million time worse by his actions following his affair, I doubt he'd have made headlines llike this if he had not sought to take out a super injunction agaisnt the press!



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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011 03:07 PM »

Asalaamu Alaikum bro

A hadith which may be appropriate for us all when faced with these type of scenarios:


It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (ra) that the Messenger of Allah saw said:


“Part of a person’s being a good Muslim is leaving alone that which does not concern him.”


[Tirmidhi]

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011 08:16 AM »

Yeh totally agree bro!

However, the guy isn't Muslim, neither is whatsherface---> classic Sr Fozia  Cheesy, & I for one have got bigger things to worry about... Not really interested in Footballer's extra marital affairs. However, I take Sr Fozia's point.

But it did make me think... What happened to the sanctity of marriage? Why aren't we as a race not perturbed by the fact that people cheat on husbands & wives?  Why has it become the social norm?

Also, why are Spouses not kind to each other? Because if they were, I don't think we'd have as high a Divorce rate amongst Muslims, never mind Non Muslims.

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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011 08:25 AM »

salam


There was an interesting discussion on this subject, the gist was that really nobody gives a scooby about the sordid lives of footballers and z list celebrities, but the general feeling was that maybe this will serve as a warning to the rich and famous before they embark on elicit affairs....

I totally agree with you Sr. Cinders, if spouses showed one another a little kindness and mutual respect divorce rates would prolly be very very low.




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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2011 10:56 AM »

Asalaamu Alaikum bro


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..the gist was that really nobody gives a scooby about the sordid lives of footballers and z list celebrities..


Agree completely, but unfortunately there seems to be a chicken and egg situation here where newspaper editors promote these stories because they know the public will lap it all up and increase their circulation. We then get more undercover reporters trying to unearth more and more scandalous news (just look at the phone tapping scandal at News International for example).


If there wasn't a demand, would there be a supply?


Another side to this story is the impact it has on society and how morals are just diluted as you hear A, B and C doing X, Y and Z.


No one seems to be really shocked anymore and perhaps this adds to the fact of why such behaviour is more prevalent?

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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2011 04:45 PM »

Assalamu alaykum,

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If there wasn't a demand, would there be a supply?

Another side to this story is the impact it has on society and how morals are just diluted as you hear A, B and C doing X, Y and Z.

No one seems to be really shocked anymore and perhaps this adds to the fact of why such behaviour is more prevalent?

I couldn't have put it better myself!

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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2011 09:37 AM »

Asalaamu Alaikum bro

A hadith which may be appropriate for us all when faced with these type of scenarios:


It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (ra) that the Messenger of Allah saw said:


“Part of a person’s being a good Muslim is leaving alone that which does not concern him.”


[Tirmidhi]
Salam alaikum

Do you have this hadith in Arabic? please?
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2011 12:20 PM »

Asalaamu Alaikum bro

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Do you have this hadith in Arabic? please?



I'm afraid I don't Sad


Can anyone else help out here?

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2011 01:43 AM »

Asalaamu Alaikum bro

A hadith which may be appropriate for us all when faced with these type of scenarios:


It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (ra) that the Messenger of Allah saw said:


“Part of a person’s being a good Muslim is leaving alone that which does not concern him.”[Tirmidhi]

A good Hadith. I would say, 'easier said than done' when we are constantly bombarded with such news on the internet, (I am not on twitter - too fast for me), and on TV.

But then again, how wise is it to comment on something you are not sure of on a tweet?

The Almighty Allah says,

"When a servant thinks of Me, I am near.
When he invokes Me, I am with him.
If he reflects on Me in secret, I reply in secret,
And if he acknowledges Me in an assembly,
I acknowledge him in a far superior assembly."

- Prophet Muhammad (SAW), as reptd by Abu Huraira
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