// Documentary: It's a Girl!
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« on: Jan 21, 2012 07:20 AM »


Ahhhh Muslims where are we on this... something Islam came to eradicate and it still goes on... Sad

It's a Girl! Documentary Film - Official Trailer
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 21, 2012 07:22 AM »

Very difficult to watch I know... here's something a little different and interesting.... opposites day?

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 21, 2012 12:13 PM »

regarding video 1....i am sure muslim sex ratio  figures have nothing to do with that. It isn't an issue in muslim community.
and that woman in pink saree......either that part was fabricated or that must be the rarest of rare case where a mother kills 8 of her own children and is so cool about it!!
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 21, 2012 03:07 PM »

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In India it is very very very common to not want girl babies, I've been told 'You only have daughters' my stock reply has always been 'Yes, exactly like the Prophet (saw).....' once I was really ticked off so I mildly replied 'And you have lots of sons, what exactly have they acheived, as a woman I am worlds ahead of them in everything' but when that conversation took place I was as close to angry as I get.

I know someone in India who had abortion one after the other because she didn't want girls, when she was expecting her second daughter, my aunty happened to visit the house she was shocked that the household seemed to be in mourning due to the birth of a daughter!

My cousin swore he wouldnt go to his wife after she had their second daughter....

I thought China was changing it's one child policy, due to the fact the male to female ratio is now so skewed there are not enough women to go round and the existing women of child bearing age prefer pursuing careers to having babies?

Islamically they are wrong wrong wrong, culturally this is the norm.

In India they give new born babies salt on birth which kills the newborn girl.

That last woman who killed eight daughters, she didnt even look sorry, how on earth does one bring oneself to strangle a newborn baby, I'm glad she has no children, she is no mother she is a murderer.




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« Reply #4 on: Jan 21, 2012 03:19 PM »

I came across the first documentary in an article in the Independent.  I've pasted it below if anyone wanted to have a read:

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/01/16/it%E2%80%99s-a-girl-the-three-deadliest-words-in-the-world/

It’s a girl, a film being released this year, documents the practice of killing unwanted baby girls in South Asia. The trailer’s most chilling scene is one with an Indian woman who, unable to contain her laughter, confesses to having killed eight infant daughters.

The statistics are sickening. The UN reports approximately 200 million girls in the world today are ‘missing’. India and China are said to eliminate more female infants than the number of girls born in the US each year. Lianyungang in China has the worst infant gender ratio on record with 163 boys born for every 100 girls. Taiwan, South Korea and Pakistan are also countries in which unwanted female babies are aborted, killed or abandoned.

Gendercide in South Asia takes many forms: baby girls are killed or abandoned if not aborted as foetuses. Girls that are not killed often suffer malnutrition and medical neglect as sons are favoured when shelter, medicine and food are scarce. Trafficking, dowry deaths, honour killings and deaths resulting from domestic violence are all further evils perpetrated against women. This femicide has led the Geneva Centre for Democratic Control of Armed Forces to report in ‘Women in an Insecure World’ that a secret genocide is being carried out against women at a time when deaths resulting from armed conflicts have decreased.

The brutal irony of femicide is that it is an evil perpetrated against girls by women. The most insidious force is often the mother in law, the domestic matriarch, under whose authority the daughter in law lives. Policy efforts to halt infanticide have been directed at mothers, who are often victims themselves. The trailer shows tragic scenes of women having to decide between killing their daughters and their own well-being. In India women who fail to produce sons are beaten, raped or killed so that men can remarry in the hope of procuring a more productive wife.

It is an oft-made argument that parental discrimination between children would end if families across south Asia were rescued from poverty. But two factors particularly suggest that femicide is a cultural phenomenon and that development and economic policy are only a partial solution: Firstly, there is no evidence of concerted female infanticide among poverty-stricken societies in Africa or the Caribbean. Secondly, it is the affluent and urban middle classes, who are aware of prenatal screenings, who have access to clinics and who can afford abortions that commit foeticide. Activists fear 8 million female foetuses have been aborted in India in the last decade.

The Chinese cultural bias towards male children is one exacerbated by the birth control policy. India, however, poses a more complex problem where the primary cause is a cultural one.

Activists attribute a culture of valuing children by their economic potential to South Asia’s patriarchal social model in which men are the sole breadwinners. Sons both carry the family name and work from a young age. Daughter, on the other hand, impose the burden of a dowry before leaving the home upon marriage. Strict moral codes, onerous cultural expectations and demanding domestic responsibilities are all forces that further subjugate women.

Dr Saleem ur Rehman, director of health services for the Kashmiri Valley, has conceded that a healthy male to female infant ratio in Kashmir in 2001 led him and his team to become complacent. Since 2001, the ratio has dropped from 94.1 to 85.9 girls per 100 boys. The solution, however, lies beyond merely holding officials to account.

The cultural root of the problem partially explains why an effective solution has eluded authorities. Legal prohibitions have proved ineffective. In India, dowries were outlawed 1961 and in 1994 the Prenatal Determination Act outlawed gender selective abortions. Yet dowries remain a condition of marriage and action against unregistered or non-compliant clinics fail to intercept registered medical professionals performing illegal operations.

A crude supply and demand distinction can be drawn. Activists argue the demand for eliminating female fetuses is independent of the supply of illegal services. Only those that can afford to abort will do so. Others simply kill or abandon female infants after birth. This foeticide/infanticide equation will only skew towards the latter if the problem of illegal clinics and criminal doctors were solved.

In the New Statesmen, Laurie Penny explained that South Korea improved its infant gender ratio through a programme of education. But is increasing the awareness of contraception, abortion laws and women’s rights a panacea? No. Educational efforts insufficiently target the core cultural canker. Similarly, economic policed designed to encourage development are necessary but insufficient. Any improvement in living conditions is unlikely to offset the financial burden of raising a child and a dowry.

A solution therefore must be three-fold. Policy efforts combatting poverty must be supplemented by legal prohibitions. There must be an educational programme informing women of their rights. Finally and most importantly, there must be a social and religions campaign aimed at destroying ossified cultural attitudes.

The distinction between, on the one hand a programme of economics and education and on the other a cultural campaign is not qualitative but quantitative. The latter warrants a greater level of official engagement, allowing governments to actively discourage femicide rather than passively encouraging change.

A ‘secret genocide’ is a malaise in response to which government paternalism must surely be justified. In Kashmir, officials have enlisted the help of social and religious leaders. It is religious and social leaders that must reinforce legal prohibitions on dowries with campaigns attacking the social pressures of producing one. And they must supplement information of women’s rights by persuading mothers to educate their daughters and to allow their daughters to work. These cultural channels are best placed to begin to erode sexist cultural monoliths.

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« Reply #5 on: Jan 21, 2012 08:08 PM »

People don't try to tell me Muslims don't practice this, cuz we all know they do. They may not go out and strangle their baby girls, but if they have girls they keep going until they have a boy or a few boys. If they have a few boys they relax. And this is in Western countries. Also what is mentioned above about medicine and care of boys versus girls. When boys are sick they are taken to Mumbai or wherever for treatment, if a girl is sick she dies at home. No joke I've seen it.

Also in-vitro you can choose the sex of the child. And people (Muslims) do.

 
As for the woman in the video, she may be an extreme case, but why assume it's fabricated. People do still kill their baby daughters, in the womb and after birth. It's reality. And they laugh about it and have no problem with it, even if it sounds delusional to us.


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« Reply #6 on: Jan 21, 2012 08:30 PM »

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I find it unimaginable that anyone would abort a healthy foetus on the basis of its sex.

I couldn't bring myself to have the downs syndrome test when I was pregnant as I knew I could not abort my unborn child & any anomaly found would have made the rest of my pregnancy so sad & filled with worry.

Regardless of religious beliefs I cannot understand a mother murdering her child conceived willingly.



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And when My servants question thee concerning Me, then surely I am nigh. I answer the prayer of the suppliant when he crieth unto Me. So let them hear My call and let them trust in Me, in order that they may be led aright. Surah 2  Verse 186
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