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« on: May 13, 2013 03:50 PM »


Ummm for real??!

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What else are they going to do? They can't just have a cold shower because it doesn't work and otherwise they just end up doing the haram thing and having a girlfriend or boyfriend. Many people won't talk about it though, because it is still a taboo subject," he added.



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"There is no difference between mut'ah marriage and prostitution. There is a time limit on the marriage, and the mahr given as a gift [from the man to the woman] is the equivalent as a payment to a prostitute," she added.



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I do... for now. UK Muslims revive temporary marriages
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22354201
BBC Asian Network

The temporary marriage, or nikah mut'ah, is an ancient Islamic practice that unites man and woman as husband and wife for a limited time. Historically it was used so that a man could have a wife for a short while when travelling long distances. So why are young British Muslims adopting the practice now?

"It allowed us to meet without breaking the bounds of Sharia [Islamic law]. We both wanted to date, to go out for dinner or go shopping and just get to know each other better before getting married, which we wouldn't have been able to do otherwise," says Sara.

She is a 30-year-old pharmacist from Birmingham, a Shia Muslim of Pakistani heritage.
'It's basically a contract'

Sara was temporarily married for six months before committing to a full marriage to her partner.

"It's basically a contract. You sit down and stipulate your conditions - for a girl who hasn't been previously married, you do need the father's permission," she said.

"We stipulated the duration, my father's conditions, and I requested what you would call a dowry where the guy gives a gift to the girl. It's simple, straightforward and doesn't take long at all," Sara added.

She is one of a significant number of young British Muslims using a temporary marriage as a way of balancing their religious beliefs with their modern Western lifestyle.

Because of the informal nature of the union there are no official statistics to show how many temporary marriages there are in the UK. But a number of senior Shia Muslim scholars and Muslim student organisations told BBC Asian Network there is something of a revival.
'Taboo subject'

There is a sectarian divide among Muslims on temporary marriage. The mut'ah is practised by Shia Muslims while Sunni Muslims generally consider it haram - forbidden.

The mut'ah is particularly popular on university campuses and, according to Omar Farooq Khan, president of the Ahlul Bayt Islamic Society at Bradford University, the practice is on the increase among Shia students.

"Definitely nikah mut'ah is on the rise now due to students becoming more aware about it. Students are educated people so obviously they look around for a solution to their problems from an Islamic perspective," said Mr Khan.

"What else are they going to do? They can't just have a cold shower because it doesn't work and otherwise they just end up doing the haram thing and having a girlfriend or boyfriend. Many people won't talk about it though, because it is still a taboo subject," he added.
'Strictly not allowed'

Khola Hassan, a Sunni Muslim and spokesperson for the UK Islamic Sharia Council, says the practice is strictly not allowed. She says it is equal to prostitution because of the time limit applied to the union.

"I have never come across a Sunni scholar, throughout history, who declares mut'ah marriage to be halal," said Mrs Hassan.

"There is no difference between mut'ah marriage and prostitution. There is a time limit on the marriage, and the mahr given as a gift [from the man to the woman] is the equivalent as a payment to a prostitute," she added.

The nikah mut'ah consists of a verbal or written contract in which both parties agree the length of time and conditions for the marriage.

The union can last for a few hours, days, months or years and when the contract ends so does the marriage.

It can include stipulations such as "no physical contact" - or "no funny business", as one parent put it - and the procedure is completed with the mahr.

Sayyad Fadhil Milani, spiritual leader at the Al-Khoei Centre in Brent, north-west London, is widely regarded as the UK's most senior Shia Islamic scholar and has written about the mut'ah marriage in his book Islamic Family Law.
Sectarian divide

"At the time of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, it was practised widely, especially when men were travelling away from home on business or at war," he said.

Ayatollah Milani said: "Islam does not permit relationships like those between a boyfriend and a girlfriend. So a nikah mut'ah gives them an opportunity to get to know each other before committing themselves to a full marriage."

He admits there is a sectarian divide over the issue: "Umar [ibn al-Khattab, the second Caliph of Islam], himself said that the mut'ah was lawful at the time of the Prophet but he banned it and said he would punish everyone who does it.

"So some Muslims [in this case Sunni Muslims] are against it because they follow the interpretation and the suggestion made by the second Caliph. The Shias say that we stick to the Koran and the practices of the Prophet."

Although nikah mut'ah is a Shia concept, other types of informal marriages are practised by Sunni Muslims, such as misyar and urfi.

Misyar allows a couple to live separately through mutual agreement while urfi is done without the public approval of the bride's guardians. Neither of these, however, has time limits as with nikah mut'ah.
Way of legitimising sex

Critics of these informal marriages, both Sunni and Shia, argue they allow a person to have multiple sexual partners and are used as an "Islamic cover" for prostitution or the exploitation of women, with men taking on multiple "wives" for a number of hours.

In these circumstances many of the formalities and parental permissions are dispensed with for the temporary marriage agreement.

BBC Asian Network heard numerous cases of it being used simply as a way of religiously legitimising sex.

Omar Ali Grant, a convert to Shia Islam, from London, has had around 13 temporary marriages but argues that he was just trying to find the right person to spend his life with. He conceded they could be used as a cover for premarital sex.

But he said: "Sex is not haram per se. In Islam sex doesn't have negative connotations; it is not impure and is not dirty.

"What Islam is saying is sex has to be between consenting adults who are also responsible. Very often it is said that temporary marriage may amount to some prostitution, but it is not that. Prostitution does occur in certain areas of Muslim society, but then again prostitution happens everywhere," said Mr Grant.
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2013 05:24 PM »

Reading such stories day in and day out is discouraging.There seems to be no value for relationships these days.

It's almost making me lose trust in the institution of marriage.

And to top it all people have been using the name of Islam in ways that please them,leaving the essential principles.There are arguments and counter arguments with so called different scholars.

May Allah forgive me.Allah knows what lies in people's hearts.
But I think people should concentrate on imbibing basic human etiquette that our religion teaches than justifying their inappropriate animal like instinctive behaviours in the guise of religion.

You need to marry temporarily to roam around,shop and check each other out?Really?

Why give such lame excuses when you are neither fighting your life out in the battle field for religion nor working hard traveling long distances to earn.

Do people want to follow what our Prophet (p.b.u.h) did in his time? So why not wear simple two piece clothes,eat handful of grain,couple of dates or sometimes nothing at all,eat in earthenware etc.?Why this selective practice of religion?
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2013 05:26 PM »

Wasn't mutah prohibited during the lifetime of the prophet (saw), didn't he himself forbid the practice at the battle of khaibar when his men asked permission?

Mutah opens up avenues for abuse.

And the dude who said the alternative is to take cold showers is rather a strange person, do people have no control over themselves, are these people all controlled by their base desires like animals?

But it's well known Shias practice temporary marriage, this isn't new.

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013 09:01 AM »

Not that I'm defending this, but as we all know, even proper Nikaah can be used for abuse...or those who take a second wife, which is even common here in the States from what I've heard. Yes, as Sr. Fozia said, Shias have practiced this...and from the Wiki article on the topic, Shia scholars are quoted as saying that any hadith that goes against Qur'an, is discarded and that it was only banned by Hz. Umar (and thus disregarded).....but as Sr. Fozia mentioned:

“O people, I had permitted you Mutah before, [but now] whoever of you has any part in it currently must part with her, and do not take back anything which you may have given them, as Allah Exalted and Majestic has forbidden it until the day of resurrection.” [Muslim, Abu Dawood, Ibn Majah, Nasa`i, and Darimi]

Ali (رضّى الله عنه) said:

“The Messenger of Allah had forbidden Mutah on the day of Khaybar and had forbidden the eating of the meat of domestic camels.” [Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmizy, Ibn Majah, Nasa`i, Tahawy, Shafi’i, Bayhaqy, and Hazimy]


If the above is accurate...Hz Ali himself, of all Sahabah, endorsed that the Prophet banned it, not (only)  Hz. Umar.

If anyone has more info, please do post.

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2013 01:42 PM »

The fact that plural marriages are open to abuse is the only reason why I think consquent wives should only marry men in countries which legally recognise their marital status.

The only reason I had a fighting chance is because alhumdulillah my marriage was recognised legally.

Women living in non legally recognised unions are leaving themselves wide open to all sorts of misery if the relationship goes south, or if their partner dies.


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